From vla at uni-bonn.de  Sat Mar  1 08:10:50 2008
From: vla at uni-bonn.de (vlad)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:10:50 +0100
Subject: sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
Message-ID: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva>

hello!

as an idea: what do you think about detachable menus in openpox. i mean
smth like the menus in gimp or gvim, ie when one clicks on the upper
border of the menu, or if the menu has a title separator on the separator, 
it becomes a normal window with window decorations etc. 
this would be very useful for some pipe-menus or menus one uses often. 
but i'm not talking about sticky menus in sense of fluxbox or pekwm,
where you have to click yourself dumb to get rid of them.
perhaps something like 
<menu id="some-menu" label="menu is detachable">
<detachable>yes/no</detachable>
<item> . . . </item>
</menu>

vlad
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From exalowprofile at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 09:02:04 2008
From: exalowprofile at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Santiago?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:02:04 +0000
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva>
References: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva>
Message-ID: <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>

That would be helpful for pipe menus yes. :D

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:10 PM, vlad <vla at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> hello!
>
> as an idea: what do you think about detachable menus in openpox. i mean
> smth like the menus in gimp or gvim, ie when one clicks on the upper
> border of the menu, or if the menu has a title separator on the separator,
> it becomes a normal window with window decorations etc.
> this would be very useful for some pipe-menus or menus one uses often.
> but i'm not talking about sticky menus in sense of fluxbox or pekwm,
> where you have to click yourself dumb to get rid of them.
> perhaps something like
> <menu id="some-menu" label="menu is detachable">
> <detachable>yes/no</detachable>
> <item> . . . </item>
> </menu>
>
> vlad
> --
>
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
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>
>
>


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From openbox at gozer.org  Sat Mar  1 10:20:50 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:20:50 -0600
Subject: followMouse and resized windows
Message-ID: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com>

Hi,

With followMouse=yes and focusNew=no, should openbox focus a window if
it's resized to an area large enough that the mouse pointer falls on
the window? I don't see this alot, usually with gmplayer's video window
on larger resolution movies.

Attached is a small gtk example that creates a 50px window and resizes
to 2000px, compile with:

gcc `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` test.c

Thanks,

Mike
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Mar  1 10:31:21 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:31:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] followMouse and resized windows
In-Reply-To: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com>
References: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011630550.10249@localhost>

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Mike Hokenson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With followMouse=yes and focusNew=no, should openbox focus a window if
> it's resized to an area large enough that the mouse pointer falls on
> the window? I don't see this alot, usually with gmplayer's video window
> on larger resolution movies.
>
> Attached is a small gtk example that creates a 50px window and resizes
> to 2000px, compile with:
>
> gcc `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` test.c

There is an option underMouse that you can set to yes to enable that 
behaviour.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From openbox at gozer.org  Sat Mar  1 10:35:07 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:35:07 -0600
Subject: [openbox] followMouse and resized windows
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011630550.10249@localhost>
References: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011630550.10249@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080301153507.GA27354@gozer.dminteractive.com>


On Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 04:31PM, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
> There is an option underMouse that you can set to yes to enable that  
> behaviour.

I have underMouse enabled, but gmplayer's gui and windows with fixed
positions that openbox doesn't place won't get focused, which should
be seen by the example with the starting window centered.


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Mar  1 10:50:31 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:50:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] followMouse and resized windows
In-Reply-To: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com>
References: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011649090.13715@localhost>

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Mike Hokenson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> With followMouse=yes and focusNew=no, should openbox focus a window if
> it's resized to an area large enough that the mouse pointer falls on
> the window? I don't see this alot, usually with gmplayer's video window
> on larger resolution movies.
>
> Attached is a small gtk example that creates a 50px window and resizes
> to 2000px, compile with:
>
> gcc `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` test.c

Ah hm, it seems the code that handles app resizes unconditionally ignores 
the enters, I think this patch will help

diff --git a/openbox/client.c b/openbox/client.c
index 816fa92..9db4e9f 100644
--- a/openbox/client.c
+++ b/openbox/client.c
@@ -3042,7 +3042,7 @@ void client_configure(ObClient *self, gint x, gint y, gint w, gint h,
      /* adjust the frame */
      if (fmoved || fresized) {
          gulong ignore_start;
-        if (!user)
+        if (!user && !config_under_mouse)
              ignore_start = event_start_ignore_all_enters();

          /* replay pending pointer event before move the window, in case it
@@ -3051,7 +3051,7 @@ void client_configure(ObClient *self, gint x, gint y, gint w, gint h,

          frame_adjust_area(self->frame, fmoved, fresized, FALSE);

-        if (!user)
+        if (!user && !config_under_mouse)
              event_end_ignore_all_enters(ignore_start);
      }



--
Mikael Magnusson


From openbox at gozer.org  Sat Mar  1 10:58:14 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:58:14 -0600
Subject: [openbox] followMouse and resized windows
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011649090.13715@localhost>
References: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011649090.13715@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080301155814.GA29448@gozer.dminteractive.com>


On Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 04:50PM, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
> Ah hm, it seems the code that handles app resizes unconditionally ignores 
> the enters, I think this patch will help
>
> diff --git a/openbox/client.c b/openbox/client.c
> index 816fa92..9db4e9f 100644
> --- a/openbox/client.c
> +++ b/openbox/client.c
> @@ -3042,7 +3042,7 @@ void client_configure(ObClient *self, gint x, gint y, gint w, gint h,
>      /* adjust the frame */
>      if (fmoved || fresized) {
>          gulong ignore_start;
> -        if (!user)
> +        if (!user && !config_under_mouse)
>              ignore_start = event_start_ignore_all_enters();
>
>          /* replay pending pointer event before move the window, in case it
> @@ -3051,7 +3051,7 @@ void client_configure(ObClient *self, gint x, gint y, gint w, gint h,
>
>          frame_adjust_area(self->frame, fmoved, fresized, FALSE);
>
> -        if (!user)
> +        if (!user && !config_under_mouse)
>              event_end_ignore_all_enters(ignore_start);
>      }

Yeah, that works, but I think you mean config_focus_under_mouse unless
the option names have changed in cvs.

Thanks,

Mike


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Mar  1 11:03:24 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:03:24 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] followMouse and resized windows
In-Reply-To: <20080301155814.GA29448@gozer.dminteractive.com>
References: <20080301152050.GA25896@gozer.dminteractive.com> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011649090.13715@localhost> <20080301155814.GA29448@gozer.dminteractive.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803011702230.14512@localhost>

On Sat, 1 Mar 2008, Mike Hokenson wrote:

>
> On Saturday, March 01, 2008 at 04:50PM, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
>>  Ah hm, it seems the code that handles app resizes unconditionally ignores
>>  the enters, I think this patch will help
>>
>>  diff --git a/openbox/client.c b/openbox/client.c
>>  index 816fa92..9db4e9f 100644
>>  --- a/openbox/client.c
>>  +++ b/openbox/client.c
>>  @@ -3042,7 +3042,7 @@ void client_configure(ObClient *self, gint x, gint
>>  y, gint w, gint h,
>>       /* adjust the frame */
>>       if (fmoved || fresized) {
>>           gulong ignore_start;
>>  -        if (!user)
>>  +        if (!user && !config_under_mouse)
>>               ignore_start = event_start_ignore_all_enters();
>>
>>           /* replay pending pointer event before move the window, in case
>>  it
>>  @@ -3051,7 +3051,7 @@ void client_configure(ObClient *self, gint x, gint
>>  y, gint w, gint h,
>>
>>           frame_adjust_area(self->frame, fmoved, fresized, FALSE);
>>
>>  -        if (!user)
>>  +        if (!user && !config_under_mouse)
>>               event_end_ignore_all_enters(ignore_start);
>>       }
>
> Yeah, that works, but I think you mean config_focus_under_mouse unless
> the option names have changed in cvs.

Ah right. Obviously I didn't test the patch myself :). Btw we haven't used 
cvs in several years, using git now.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From danakj at orodu.net  Sat Mar  1 13:29:16 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:29:16 -0500
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva>
	 <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803011029i2cf6b74el3635cd8635223403@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/1/08, Jo?o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com> wrote:
> That would be helpful for pipe menus yes. :D
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 1:10 PM, vlad <vla at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> > hello!
> >
> > as an idea: what do you think about detachable menus in openpox. i mean
> > smth like the menus in gimp or gvim, ie when one clicks on the upper
> > border of the menu, or if the menu has a title separator on the separator,
> > it becomes a normal window with window decorations etc.
> > this would be very useful for some pipe-menus or menus one uses often.
> > but i'm not talking about sticky menus in sense of fluxbox or pekwm,
> > where you have to click yourself dumb to get rid of them.
> > perhaps something like
> > <menu id="some-menu" label="menu is detachable">
> > <detachable>yes/no</detachable>
> > <item> . . . </item>
> > </menu>

Would you also be expecting the pipe menu to be re-run periodocally
and refreshing the menu contents?

From knuteh at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  1 13:43:38 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:43:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803011029i2cf6b74el3635cd8635223403@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <481269.74495.qm@web50208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Dana Jansens <danakj at orodu.net> wrote:

> On 3/1/08, Jo?o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > where you have to click yourself dumb to get rid of them.
> > > perhaps something like
> > > <menu id="some-menu" label="menu is detachable">
> > > <detachable>yes/no</detachable>
> > > <item> . . . </item>
> > > </menu>
> 
> Would you also be expecting the pipe menu to be re-run periodocally
> and refreshing the menu contents?
> 

Put an extra button in the title... Refresh... just like a browser button.

Knute


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From vla at uni-bonn.de  Sat Mar  1 14:17:04 2008
From: vla at uni-bonn.de (vlad)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:17:04 +0100
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803011029i2cf6b74el3635cd8635223403@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva> <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com> <b3502dfb0803011029i2cf6b74el3635cd8635223403@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080301191703.GA8091@minerva>

hi dana,

On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:29:16PM -0500, Dana Jansens wrote:
> Would you also be expecting the pipe menu to be re-run periodocally
> and refreshing the menu contents?

no. that would be "too much".
it's not only for pipe-menus but also for normal menus. so a refresh
button, auto-refresh or similar would be then senseless.
re-opening does the refresh...

vlad

-- 


From exalowprofile at gmail.com  Sat Mar  1 17:09:12 2008
From: exalowprofile at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Santiago?=)
Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 22:09:12 +0000
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <20080301191703.GA8091@minerva>
References: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva>
	 <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>
	 <b3502dfb0803011029i2cf6b74el3635cd8635223403@mail.gmail.com>
	 <20080301191703.GA8091@minerva>
Message-ID: <9b14de940803011409k374c710eye54fd196c87fab8b@mail.gmail.com>

Agreed. Refresh would be too much.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:17 PM, vlad <vla at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> hi dana,
>
> On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:29:16PM -0500, Dana Jansens wrote:
> > Would you also be expecting the pipe menu to be re-run periodocally
> > and refreshing the menu contents?
>
> no. that would be "too much".
> it's not only for pipe-menus but also for normal menus. so a refresh
> button, auto-refresh or similar would be then senseless.
> re-opening does the refresh...
>
> vlad
>
> --
>
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


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From ijanos at gmail.com  Sun Mar  2 04:07:38 2008
From: ijanos at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E1nos_Ill=E9s?=)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:07:38 +0100
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <9b14de940803011409k374c710eye54fd196c87fab8b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva>
	 <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>
	 <b3502dfb0803011029i2cf6b74el3635cd8635223403@mail.gmail.com>
	 <20080301191703.GA8091@minerva>
	 <9b14de940803011409k374c710eye54fd196c87fab8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bcfddee30803020107x23c64c13v44f9a370194652b6@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Jo?o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed. Refresh would be too much.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:17 PM, vlad <vla at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
> > hi dana,
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 01:29:16PM -0500, Dana Jansens wrote:
> > > Would you also be expecting the pipe menu to be re-run periodocally
> > > and refreshing the menu contents?
> >
> > no. that would be "too much".
> > it's not only for pipe-menus but also for normal menus. so a refresh
> > button, auto-refresh or similar would be then senseless.
> > re-opening does the refresh...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > vlad
> >
> > --
> >
> > ---
> > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Labor omnia vincit improbus


And what about positionable menus? You could press a key and the
desired menu would show up at the center of the screen for example
(and not at the cursor position like now)
No need for refresh since the menu just appears as needed with fresh contents.

ps: yeah this mail is kind of a feature request ;)

-- 
ijanos


From danakj at orodu.net  Sun Mar  2 18:23:04 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:23:04 -0500
Subject: openbox 3.4.7-pre2 test release
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803021523r552f0eebg912e671070f6c2fd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'd like to inform you that we have released an Openbox 3.4.7-pre2
tarball.  We've been working on some nice new usability things, all of
which are contained in the updated changelog.  That means that some
new user-visible (translatable) strings have been added in the
process.

I hope some of you will try it out and let us know of any problems! :)

You can find it here: http://openbox.org/openbox-3.4.7-pre2.tar.gz

Thanks!

Dana


From openbox at gozer.org  Mon Mar  3 16:40:29 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:40:29 -0600
Subject: wrapper for window managers
Message-ID: <20080303214028.GA955@gozer.dminteractive.com>

Hi list,

This is a bit off topic and since I've never had any problems with
Openbox 3 crashing, may not be of particular use to anyone here, but I
thought it'd be worth posting anyway...

I've always wanted a wrapper to keep my X session open in the event of a
window manager crash or abnormal exit, something that could start up an
alternate if things are going really bad. "until openbox; do :; sleep 5;
done" works, but only to a point. Something a bit more functional would
be useful if you're bouncing between window managers for whatever
reason, notably those without a menu or the ability to restart into
another (if there is such a thing), or where you don't care to learn the
configuration to build/customize a menu.

The closest thing I could find was wmselect, but I didn't see anything
about handling exit codes, it's just a list that would come up
regardless.

Anyway, attached is wmwrapper.c (also available at
http://www.gozer.org/programs/c/files/wmwrapper.c), a tiny gtk2 app that
presents a window with a list of window managers and an xterm fallback
(in a GtkComboBox). Aside from scanning for a list of known window
managers in $PATH, I can't really think of anything else to do. See
comments for compiling instructions, usage, and configuration.

Mike
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From vla at uni-bonn.de  Thu Mar  6 19:08:39 2008
From: vla at uni-bonn.de (vlad)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 01:08:39 +0100
Subject: openbox4
Message-ID: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>

... is already out:
http://www.neufbox4.org/forum/

-- 


From folderol at ukfsn.org  Fri Mar  7 14:15:04 2008
From: folderol at ukfsn.org (Folderol)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 19:15:04 +0000
Subject: [openbox] openbox4
In-Reply-To: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
Message-ID: <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>

On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 01:08:39 +0100
vlad <vla at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> ... is already out:
> http://www.neufbox4.org/forum/

This could get highly confusing :(

-- 
Will J Godfrey
http://www.musically.me.uk


From exalowprofile at gmail.com  Fri Mar  7 15:50:16 2008
From: exalowprofile at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Santiago?=)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 20:50:16 +0000
Subject: [openbox] openbox4
In-Reply-To: <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
	 <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>
Message-ID: <9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com>

I don't get it... what is that? Openbox4?!

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Folderol <folderol at ukfsn.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 7 Mar 2008 01:08:39 +0100
> vlad <vla at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>
> > ... is already out:
> > http://www.neufbox4.org/forum/
>
> This could get highly confusing :(
>
> --
> Will J Godfrey
> http://www.musically.me.uk
>
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


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From rfquerin at gmail.com  Fri Mar  7 16:03:28 2008
From: rfquerin at gmail.com (Richard Querin)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:03:28 -0500
Subject: [openbox] openbox4
In-Reply-To: <9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
	 <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>
	 <9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7d81675b0803071303j6f0548eq39b953c8a31cc223@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Jo?o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't get it... what is that? Openbox4?!
>
>
It looks like it is software or firmware for something called the Neuf Box 4
which appears to be a telecom device in France:

http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3423233646.html


Clearly not as interesting or meaningful as a lightweight window manager!
:)  Besides, it's already called the 9 Box 4. That already doesn't make
sense. :)

RQ
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From cyberheroo at arcor.de  Fri Mar  7 16:41:24 2008
From: cyberheroo at arcor.de (Sebastian Joseph)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:41:24 +0100
Subject: Lock window position?
Message-ID: <47D1B684.3090000@arcor.de>

Hey,
I have a question. I want do lock an auto-started, undecorated terminal 
at bottom layer at a fixed position, and I need a tip, how to fix the 
position. The only posibility I see is to deactivate the keybind for all 
programs with Xclass="sample". But how? I hope you can help me.

Greetings
Sebastian


From exalowprofile at gmail.com  Fri Mar  7 16:44:05 2008
From: exalowprofile at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_Santiago?=)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 21:44:05 +0000
Subject: [openbox] openbox4
In-Reply-To: <7d81675b0803071303j6f0548eq39b953c8a31cc223@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
	 <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>
	 <9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com>
	 <7d81675b0803071303j6f0548eq39b953c8a31cc223@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9b14de940803071344u418eb418u98ac962db69cf9a0@mail.gmail.com>

so this is just a funny finding right? hehe

On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Richard Querin <rfquerin at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Jo?o Santiago <exalowprofile at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I don't get it... what is that? Openbox4?!
> >
> >
> It looks like it is software or firmware for something called the Neuf Box
> 4 which appears to be a telecom device in France:
>
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS3423233646.html
>
>
> Clearly not as interesting or meaningful as a lightweight window manager!
> :)  Besides, it's already called the 9 Box 4. That already doesn't make
> sense. :)
>
> RQ
>
>


-- 
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From dougb at dougbarton.us  Fri Mar  7 16:50:19 2008
From: dougb at dougbarton.us (Doug Barton)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:50:19 -0800
Subject: [openbox] sticky menus, menus as windows or smth similar
In-Reply-To: <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080301131049.GA21191@minerva> <9b14de940803010602j5784499if5b1eb662176b5c3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47D1B89B.6040108@dougbarton.us>

I rarely ever do "me too" posts, but just in case the developers are 
keeping informal poll results ... :)

This is the one feature I REALLY miss from WindowMaker. I looked at 
all the new window managers that are in active development, and could 
not find one that had this ability, which I used to use quite often.

I ultimately chose OB because it has all the _other_ features that I 
really wanted, but the addition of this one element would make it
The Perfect Window ManagerTM.


hth,

Doug

PS, I also believe that refreshing pipe menus would be overkill. 
WindowMaker didn't have that ability, and on the rare occasion it was 
necessary, re-opening the menu was not an overwhelming burden.



From knuteh at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  7 17:15:57 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:15:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [openbox] Lock window position?
In-Reply-To: <47D1B684.3090000@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <644991.76259.qm@web50208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Sebastian Joseph <cyberheroo at arcor.de> wrote:

> Hey,
> I have a question. I want do lock an auto-started, undecorated
> terminal 
> at bottom layer at a fixed position, and I need a tip, how to fix the
> 
> position. The only posibility I see is to deactivate the keybind for
> all 
> programs with Xclass="sample". But how? I hope you can help me.
> 
> Greetings
> Sebastian
> 
    <application class="tvtime">
      <position>
        <x>-0</x>
        <y>-30</y>
      </position>
      <decor>
        <titlebar>no</titlebar>
        <borders>yes</borders>
      </decor>
    </application>

hehehe... .just remembered about this, as it overrides program
specified settings... Yes, I was trying to move where it comes up from
the geometry setting!

Knute


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
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From knuteh at yahoo.com  Fri Mar  7 17:19:12 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 14:19:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [openbox] Lock window position?
In-Reply-To: <644991.76259.qm@web50208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <396776.11843.qm@web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

P.S.  This setting is in the rc.xml file.


--- Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> --- Sebastian Joseph <cyberheroo at arcor.de> wrote:
> 
> > Hey,
> > I have a question. I want do lock an auto-started, undecorated
> > terminal 
> > at bottom layer at a fixed position, and I need a tip, how to fix
> the
> > 
> > position. The only posibility I see is to deactivate the keybind
> for
> > all 
> > programs with Xclass="sample". But how? I hope you can help me.
> > 
> > Greetings
> > Sebastian
> > 
>     <application class="tvtime">
>       <position>
>         <x>-0</x>
>         <y>-30</y>
>       </position>
>       <decor>
>         <titlebar>no</titlebar>
>         <borders>yes</borders>
>       </decor>
>     </application>
> 
> hehehe... .just remembered about this, as it overrides program
> specified settings... Yes, I was trying to move where it comes up
> from
> the geometry setting!
> 
> Knute
> 


Knute


      ____________________________________________________________________________________
Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


From wb0gaz at hotmail.com  Fri Mar  7 17:35:15 2008
From: wb0gaz at hotmail.com (david feldman)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 15:35:15 -0700
Subject: Digest mode possible?
In-Reply-To: <9b14de940803071344u418eb418u98ac962db69cf9a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
	 <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>
 	 <9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com>
 	 <7d81675b0803071303j6f0548eq39b953c8a31cc223@mail.gmail.com> 
 <9b14de940803071344u418eb418u98ac962db69cf9a0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY111-W25851A44568397BE5A7E2A96130@phx.gbl>


Wish to put my subscription to this reflector into daily digest mode. Can't see how to do this from my visit to icculus.org. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Very tks,

Dave
_________________________________________________________________
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From openbox at gozer.org  Fri Mar  7 17:44:16 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:44:16 -0600
Subject: [openbox] Digest mode possible?
In-Reply-To: <BAY111-W25851A44568397BE5A7E2A96130@phx.gbl>
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva> <20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org> <9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com> <7d81675b0803071303j6f0548eq39b953c8a31cc223@mail.gmail.com> <9b14de940803071344u418eb418u98ac962db69cf9a0@mail.gmail.com> <BAY111-W25851A44568397BE5A7E2A96130@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20080307224416.GA15722@gozer.dminteractive.com>

I'm not familiar with EZMLM, but it sounds like this is usually
accomplished with another list (openbox-digest at icculus.org) and it
doesn't seem like there is one.

http://stllug.sluug.org/meeting_notes/1998/0521/digests.html
http://www.ezmlm.org/manual/Unsubscribing-from-a-Digest-List.html

Mike

On Friday, March 07, 2008 at 03:35PM, david feldman wrote:
>
>Wish to put my subscription to this reflector into daily digest mode. Can't see how to do this from my visit to icculus.org. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
>
>Very tks,
>
>Dave
>_________________________________________________________________
>Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.?You IM, we give.
>http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join
>---
>To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>


From chombee at nerdshack.com  Mon Mar 10 07:26:30 2008
From: chombee at nerdshack.com (chombee)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:26:30 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Lock window position?
In-Reply-To: <47D1B684.3090000@arcor.de>
References: <47D1B684.3090000@arcor.de>
Message-ID: <1205148390.6657.4.camel@tig>

On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 22:41 +0100, Sebastian Joseph wrote:
> Hey,
> I have a question. I want do lock an auto-started, undecorated terminal 
> at bottom layer at a fixed position, and I need a tip, how to fix the 
> position. 

This sounds like something you can do with devilspie:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202249&highlight=terminal
+desktop




From clay at hci-matters.com  Mon Mar 10 10:13:47 2008
From: clay at hci-matters.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:13:47 -0700
Subject: mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
Message-ID: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>

Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as
when called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?  It looks like mplayer is
being forced to have a one-pixel outline that shifts the window south
and east by a pixel from where it wants to be.


-- 
Clay Barnes

Website:
http://www.hci-matters.com

GPG Public Key (Fingerprint 0xbb14 fce2 1199 c413):
http://www.hci-matters.com/keys/claybarnes_public_key_until20080718.gpg
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From openbox at gozer.org  Mon Mar 10 10:46:20 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:46:20 -0500
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20080310144620.GA2287@gozer.dminteractive.com>

I don't see a border in (g)mplayer (with or without -fs). Do you think
it's the window border Openbox is adding? I tried border.width: 3 and
window.active.border.color: #ffffff and still didn't see anything.

Mike

On Monday, March 10, 2008 at 07:13AM, Clay Barnes wrote:
>Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
>edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as when
>called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?  It looks like mplayer is being
>forced to have a one-pixel outline that shifts the window south and
>east by a pixel from where it wants to be.
>
>
>-- Clay Barnes
>
>Website: http://www.hci-matters.com
>
>GPG Public Key (Fingerprint 0xbb14 fce2 1199 c413):
>http://www.hci-matters.com/keys/claybarnes_public_key_until20080718.gpg




From daf at minuslab.net  Mon Mar 10 11:02:44 2008
From: daf at minuslab.net (Dave Foster)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:02:44 -0400
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>


Clay Barnes wrote:
> Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
> edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as
> when called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?  

Do you use the option which adds margins to the desktop?  If so, 
maximized (and i assume fullscreen) windows
have some border issues.  I've only observed a top border and no others, 
but I rarely maximize anything.

dave




From porizka at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 11:21:01 2008
From: porizka at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Roman_Po=C5=99=C3=ADzka?=)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:21:01 +0100
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
	 <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>
Message-ID: <c5ccf88b0803100821v2c453623jd39583b23d7a7ae5@mail.gmail.com>

I see borders when decorations are off for mplayer.

Roman

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Dave Foster <daf at minuslab.net> wrote:
>
>  Clay Barnes wrote:
>  > Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
>  > edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as
>  > when called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?
>
>  Do you use the option which adds margins to the desktop?  If so,
>  maximized (and i assume fullscreen) windows
>  have some border issues.  I've only observed a top border and no others,
>  but I rarely maximize anything.
>
>  dave
>
>
>
>
>
>  ---
>  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


From clay at hci-matters.com  Mon Mar 10 11:28:01 2008
From: clay at hci-matters.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:28:01 -0700
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>
Message-ID: <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>

On 11:02 Mon 10 Mar     , Dave Foster wrote:
>
> Clay Barnes wrote:
>> Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
>> edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as
>> when called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?  
>
> Do you use the option which adds margins to the desktop?  If so,  

In OB or mplayer?

> maximized (and i assume fullscreen) windows
> have some border issues.  I've only observed a top border and no others,  
> but I rarely maximize anything.
>
> dave

In case this illuminates anything, I've attached my ~/.mplayer/config,
and rc.xml.

-- 
Clay Barnes

Website:
http://www.hci-matters.com

GPG Public Key (Fingerprint 0xbb14 fce2 1199 c413):
http://www.hci-matters.com/keys/claybarnes_public_key_until20080718.gpg
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zoom=yes	# Allow X11 stretching at the expense of CPU
fstype = above,fullscreen	# Make fullscreen set the right hints
#vf = pp=ac	# Set the high quality video filter to fix crappy encodes
nojoystick=yes	# Disable joystick input so it won't twitch and skip around
nolirc=yes	# Disable lirc input so it won't twitch and skip around
nomouseinput=yes	# Disable mouse input so it won't twitch and skip around
vo=x11,fbdev,directfb	# Pick x11 first so even without GL mplayer works
#vo=gl,x11,fbdev,directfb # Pick GL first so mplayer works best with OpenGL
#vo=vesa:vidix,vesa   # Video Output driver (Use VidiX if available, VESA otherwise)
framedrop=yes	# Enable framedrop
ao=alsa		# Audio Output driver
alang=en	# DVD Audio language : try first one then go to second if first does not exists and so on ...
#mixer-channel=Master # Device to be controlled by volume keys
vsync=yes	# Activate Vertical Synchronization
fs=yes		# Enable Fullscreen (need more CPU)
menu=no		# Display OSD Menu
double=yes	# Enable Double Buffering
fixed-vo=yes	# Use a fixed image ratio
nocolorkey=yes	# Deactivate the Colorkey
cache=1048576	# Cache Size (in kB)
cache-min=.001	# Let it start before reading a whole gig (rather just 1MB). . .
idx=yes		# Let MPlayer rebuild a file with broken headers
subfont-text-scale=3	# OSD Fonts Size
screenw=1920		# Screen Width
screenh=1200		# Screen Height 
monitoraspect="16/10"	# Set the moniter aspect so fullscreen looks right
#rtc=no
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Mon Mar 10 11:53:04 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:53:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net> <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost>

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Clay Barnes wrote:

> On 11:02 Mon 10 Mar     , Dave Foster wrote:
>>
>> Clay Barnes wrote:
>>> Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
>>> edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as
>>> when called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?
>>
>> Do you use the option which adds margins to the desktop?  If so,
>
> In OB or mplayer?
>
>> maximized (and i assume fullscreen) windows
>> have some border issues.  I've only observed a top border and no others,
>> but I rarely maximize anything.
>>
>> dave
>
> In case this illuminates anything, I've attached my ~/.mplayer/config,
> and rc.xml.

It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just 
fullscreen:
fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints


--
Mikael Magnusson


From clay at hci-matters.com  Mon Mar 10 12:09:31 2008
From: clay at hci-matters.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:09:31 -0700
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net> <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost>
Message-ID: <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>

On 16:53 Mon 10 Mar     , Mikael Magnusson wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Clay Barnes wrote:
>
>> On 11:02 Mon 10 Mar     , Dave Foster wrote:
>>>
>>> Clay Barnes wrote:
>>>> Does anyone else get the boarder still visible on the west and north
>>>> edges of an mplayer window when it's in fullscreen mode (such as
>>>> when called by `mplayer -fs video.mpeg')?
>>>
>>> Do you use the option which adds margins to the desktop?  If so,
>>
>> In OB or mplayer?
>>
>>> maximized (and i assume fullscreen) windows
>>> have some border issues.  I've only observed a top border and no others,
>>> but I rarely maximize anything.
>>>
>>> dave
>>
>> In case this illuminates anything, I've attached my ~/.mplayer/config,
>> and rc.xml.
>
> It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just  
> fullscreen:
> fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints

I tried both removing the line and changing it, but I get the same
effect.


-- 
Clay Barnes

Website:
http://www.hci-matters.com

GPG Public Key (Fingerprint 0xbb14 fce2 1199 c413):
http://www.hci-matters.com/keys/claybarnes_public_key_until20080718.gpg
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From openbox at gozer.org  Mon Mar 10 12:15:20 2008
From: openbox at gozer.org (Mike Hokenson)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:15:20 -0500
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net> <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost> <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com>


On Monday, March 10, 2008 at 09:09AM, Clay Barnes wrote:
>> It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just  
>> fullscreen:
>> fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints
>
>I tried both removing the line and changing it, but I get the same
>effect.

make sure that's also not in ~/.mplayer/gui.conf


From jehan at zemarmot.net  Mon Mar 10 12:42:20 2008
From: jehan at zemarmot.net (jehan)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:42:20 +0100
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
            <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>
            <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
            <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost>
            <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
            <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com>
Message-ID: <20080310164220.13024.qmail@ks36767.kimsufi.com>

Hello, 

and maybe not also in the system wide mplayer's config files (in /etc)... 

Jehan 

Mike Hokenson writes: 

> 
> On Monday, March 10, 2008 at 09:09AM, Clay Barnes wrote:
>>> It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just  
>>> fullscreen:
>>> fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints
>> 
>> I tried both removing the line and changing it, but I get the same
>> effect.
> 
> make sure that's also not in ~/.mplayer/gui.conf 
> 
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24 
> 
> 


From clay at hci-matters.com  Mon Mar 10 12:32:15 2008
From: clay at hci-matters.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:32:15 -0700
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net> <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost> <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com>
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On 11:15 Mon 10 Mar     , Mike Hokenson wrote:
>
> On Monday, March 10, 2008 at 09:09AM, Clay Barnes wrote:
>>> It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just  
>>> fullscreen:
>>> fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints
>>
>> I tried both removing the line and changing it, but I get the same
>> effect.
>
> make sure that's also not in ~/.mplayer/gui.conf
>

Nope, not there.  I'm attaching /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf and
~/.mplayer/gui.conf in case I'm missing something else.

-- 
Clay Barnes

Website:
http://www.hci-matters.com

GPG Public Key (Fingerprint 0xbb14 fce2 1199 c413):
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enable_audio_equ = "no"
vo_driver = "xv"
vo_panscan = "0.000000"
vo_doublebuffering = "no"
vo_direct_render = "no"
vo_dxr3_device = "/dev/em8300-0"
v_framedrop = "1"
v_flip = "0"
v_ni = "no"
v_idx = "-1"
vf_pp = "no"
vf_autoq = "0"
vf_lavc = "no"
ao_driver = "alsa"
ao_volnorm = "no"
softvol = "no"
ao_surround = "no"
ao_extra_stereo = "no"
ao_extra_stereo_coefficient = "1.000000"
dvd_device = "/dev/dvd"
cdrom_device = "/dev/dvd"
osd_level = "1"
sub_auto_load = "yes"
sub_unicode = "no"
ass_enabled = "no"
ass_use_margins = "no"
ass_top_margin = "0"
ass_bottom_margin = "0"
sub_pos = "100"
sub_overlap = "no"
font_factor = "0.750000"
font_name = "Sans"
font_text_scale = "5.000000"
font_osd_scale = "6.000000"
font_blur = "2.000000"
font_outline = "2.000000"
font_autoscale = "3"
cache = "yes"
cache_size = "1048576"
playbar = "yes"
load_fullscreen = "no"
show_videowin = "yes"
stopxscreensaver = "yes"
autosync = "no"
autosync_size = "0"
gui_skin = "default"
gui_save_pos = "yes"
gui_main_pos_x = "1435"
gui_main_pos_y = "583"
gui_video_out_pos_x = "473"
gui_video_out_pos_y = "212"
equ_band_00 = "0.000000"
equ_band_01 = "0.000000"
equ_band_02 = "0.000000"
equ_band_03 = "0.000000"
equ_band_04 = "0.000000"
equ_band_05 = "0.000000"
equ_band_06 = "0.000000"
equ_band_07 = "0.000000"
equ_band_08 = "0.000000"
equ_band_09 = "0.000000"
equ_band_10 = "0.000000"
equ_band_11 = "0.000000"
equ_band_12 = "0.000000"
equ_band_13 = "0.000000"
equ_band_14 = "0.000000"
equ_band_15 = "0.000000"
equ_band_16 = "0.000000"
equ_band_17 = "0.000000"
equ_band_18 = "0.000000"
equ_band_19 = "0.000000"
equ_band_20 = "0.000000"
equ_band_21 = "0.000000"
equ_band_22 = "0.000000"
equ_band_23 = "0.000000"
equ_band_24 = "0.000000"
equ_band_25 = "0.000000"
equ_band_26 = "0.000000"
equ_band_27 = "0.000000"
equ_band_28 = "0.000000"
equ_band_29 = "0.000000"
equ_band_30 = "0.000000"
equ_band_31 = "0.000000"
equ_band_32 = "0.000000"
equ_band_33 = "0.000000"
equ_band_34 = "0.000000"
equ_band_35 = "0.000000"
equ_band_36 = "0.000000"
equ_band_37 = "0.000000"
equ_band_38 = "0.000000"
equ_band_39 = "0.000000"
equ_band_40 = "0.000000"
equ_band_41 = "0.000000"
equ_band_42 = "0.000000"
equ_band_43 = "0.000000"
equ_band_44 = "0.000000"
equ_band_45 = "0.000000"
equ_band_46 = "0.000000"
equ_band_47 = "0.000000"
equ_band_48 = "0.000000"
equ_band_49 = "0.000000"
equ_band_50 = "0.000000"
equ_band_51 = "0.000000"
equ_band_52 = "0.000000"
equ_band_53 = "0.000000"
equ_band_54 = "0.000000"
equ_band_55 = "0.000000"
equ_band_56 = "0.000000"
equ_band_57 = "0.000000"
equ_band_58 = "0.000000"
equ_band_59 = "0.000000"
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#
# MPlayer configuration file
#
# Configuration files are read system-wide from /usr/local/etc/mplayer.conf
# and per user from ~/.mplayer/config, where per-user settings override
# system-wide settings, all of which are overrriden by the command line.
#
# The configuration file settings are the same as the command line
# options without the preceding '-'.
#
# See the CONFIGURATION FILES section in the man page
# for a detailed description of the syntax.


##################
# video settings #
##################

# Specify default video driver (see -vo help for a list).
#vo=xv

# Use SDL video with the aalib subdriver by default.
#vo = sdl:aalib

# FBdev driver:
#
# mode to use (read from fb.modes)
#fbmode = 640x480-120
#
# location of the fb.modes file
#fbmodeconfig = /etc/fb.modes

# Specify your monitor timings for the vesa and fbdev video output drivers.
# See /etc/X11/XF86Config for timings. Be careful; if you specify settings
# that exceed the capabilities of your monitor, you may damage it.
#
# horizontal frequency range (k stands for 1000)
#monitor-hfreq = 31.5k-50k,70k
#
# vertical frequency range
#monitor-vfreq = 50-90
#
# dotclock (or pixelclock) range (m stands for 1000000)
#monitor-dotclock = 30M-300M

# Start in fullscreen mode by default.
#fs=yes

# Change to a different videomode when going fullscreen.
#vm=yes

# Override the autodetected color depth, may need 'vm=yes' as well.
#bpp=0

# Enable software scaling (powerful CPU needed) for video output
# drivers that do not support hardware scaling.
#zoom=yes

# standard monitor size, with square pixels
#monitoraspect=4:3

# Use this for a widescreen monitor, non-square pixels.
#monitoraspect=16:9

# Keep the player window on top of all other windows.
#ontop=yes


##################
# audio settings #
##################

# Specify default audio driver (see -ao help for a list).
ao=alsa

# Use SDL audio driver with the esd subdriver by default.
#ao = sdl:esd

# Specify the mixer device.
#mixer = /dev/mixer

# Resample the sound to 44100Hz with the lavcresample audio filter.
#af=lavcresample=44100


##################
# other settings #
##################

# Drop frames to preserve audio/video sync.
#framedrop = yes

# Specify your preferred skin here (skins are searched for in
# /usr/local/share/mplayer/skins/<name> and ~/.mplayer/skins/<name>).
#skin = Abyss

# Resample the font alphamap.
# 0     plain white fonts
# 0.75  very narrow black outline (default)
# 1     narrow black outline
# 10    bold black outline
#ffactor = 0.75

# cache settings
#
# Use 8MB input cache by default.
#cache = 8192
#
# Prefill 20% of the cache before starting playback.
#cache-min = 20.0
#
# Prefill 50% of the cache before restarting playback after the cache emptied.
#cache-seek-min = 50

# DVD: Display English subtitles if available.
#slang = en

# DVD: Play English audio tracks if available.
#alang = en

# get a default OSD font from fontconfig

fontconfig = yes
font = "Sans"
subfont-text-scale = 3

# You can also include other configuration files.
#include = /path/to/the/file/you/want/to/include
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From danakj at orodu.net  Mon Mar 10 13:00:26 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:00:26 -0400
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <20080310163215.GL3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
	 <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net>
	 <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost>
	 <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
	 <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com>
	 <20080310163215.GL3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803101000m1c96c5b4o9aac4b163e9dc98e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Clay Barnes <clay at hci-matters.com> wrote:
> On 11:15 Mon 10 Mar     , Mike Hokenson wrote:
>  >
>  > On Monday, March 10, 2008 at 09:09AM, Clay Barnes wrote:
>  >>> It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just
>  >>> fullscreen:
>  >>> fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints
>  >>
>  >> I tried both removing the line and changing it, but I get the same
>  >> effect.

Is vo=x11 different from vo=xv?  Maybe it makes itself fullscreen in a
weird way?  I can't experiment with anything right now.


From chtank at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 14:18:24 2008
From: chtank at gmail.com (Charles H. Tankersley)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:18:24 -0500
Subject: I need help
In-Reply-To: <47D5CE1F.1040006@gmail.com>
References: <47D5CE1F.1040006@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b7d33e000803101118j54d2fd09pc358a2b09fb326e8@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com>
wrote:

> My name is Charles H. Tankersly, aka chtank. I am a volunteer IRC
> Network Administrator and chief web master/developer for
> http://www.deepspace2.org, a non-profit network to aid and assist the
> elderly and disabled computer users mainstream on the Internet.
>
> I have been testing TinyMe, a product of PCLinuxOS, for use for the
> clients of deepspace.org. TinyMe (and minime), however, use openbox for
> their desktop. I have been touring your documentation to try and find
> ways to "fix" some glitches that will enable the blind, vision impaired,
> and otherwise disabled users to rely on openbox. One of the problems, a
> serious problem for the disabled and novice user is that all the
> "tutorials" are written in geek. Most of us are not knowledgeable with
> programming language nor are the able to sue the command line very well.
> This is why most are remaining with Windows and avoiding much of what
> open source has to offer. Can you please help me, too, since I know html
> and use the W3C Accessibility standards but not commandline nor any
> other programming language. BTW, I am 75 years old and retired from
> Engineering as a Principle Mechanical Designer, Parsons Engineering
> Corporation, Power and Petrochemical Division. I am not a programmer and
> was forced to use the computer for my engineering documentation.
>
> Yours,
> Charles H. Tankersley
> aka chtank
>



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From clay at hci-matters.com  Mon Mar 10 15:20:41 2008
From: clay at hci-matters.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 12:20:41 -0700
Subject: [openbox] mplayer in fullscreen has outline still visible
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803101000m1c96c5b4o9aac4b163e9dc98e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080310141347.GF3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <47D54D94.506@minuslab.net> <20080310152800.GI3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803101652290.30317@localhost> <20080310160931.GJ3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <20080310161520.GA11739@gozer.dminteractive.com> <20080310163215.GL3118@HAL6000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <b3502dfb0803101000m1c96c5b4o9aac4b163e9dc98e@mail.gmail.com>
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On 13:00 Mon 10 Mar     , Dana Jansens wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Clay Barnes <clay at hci-matters.com> wrote:
> > On 11:15 Mon 10 Mar     , Mike Hokenson wrote:
> >  >
> >  > On Monday, March 10, 2008 at 09:09AM, Clay Barnes wrote:
> >  >>> It does, remove this line from .mplayer/config, or change it to just
> >  >>> fullscreen:
> >  >>> fstype = above,fullscreen       # Make fullscreen set the right hints
> >  >>
> >  >> I tried both removing the line and changing it, but I get the same
> >  >> effect.
> 
> Is vo=x11 different from vo=xv?  Maybe it makes itself fullscreen in a
> weird way?  I can't experiment with anything right now.


I tried xv, x11, gl, gl2, sdl, and pretty much all the others (the
ones I am not listing didn't even show a video window or were not for
X).  Only sdl did the right thing (didn't draw a little border on the
N&W edges).  I'm not sure whether this is a bug in OB3 or mplayer.

-- 
Clay Barnes

Website:
http://www.hci-matters.com

GPG Public Key (Fingerprint 0xbb14 fce2 1199 c413):
http://www.hci-matters.com/keys/claybarnes_public_key_until20080718.gpg
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From delcides at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 16:42:32 2008
From: delcides at gmail.com (Delcides F. Sousa Jr)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:42:32 -0300
Subject: [openbox] Re: I need help
In-Reply-To: <b7d33e000803101118j54d2fd09pc358a2b09fb326e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47D5CE1F.1040006@gmail.com>
	 <b7d33e000803101118j54d2fd09pc358a2b09fb326e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f99411720803101342n71633eecqc0be395a6f32f8d1@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > My name is Charles H. Tankersly, aka chtank. I am a volunteer IRC
> > Network Administrator and chief web master/developer for
> > http://www.deepspace2.org, a non-profit network to aid and assist the
> > elderly and disabled computer users mainstream on the Internet.
> >
> > I have been testing TinyMe, a product of PCLinuxOS, for use for the
> > clients of deepspace.org. TinyMe (and minime), however, use openbox for
> > their desktop. I have been touring your documentation to try and find
> > ways to "fix" some glitches that will enable the blind, vision impaired,
> > and otherwise disabled users to rely on openbox. One of the problems, a
> > serious problem for the disabled and novice user is that all the
> > "tutorials" are written in geek. Most of us are not knowledgeable with
> > programming language nor are the able to sue the command line very well.
> > This is why most are remaining with Windows and avoiding much of what
> > open source has to offer. Can you please help me, too, since I know html
> > and use the W3C Accessibility standards but not commandline nor any
> > other programming language. BTW, I am 75 years old and retired from
> > Engineering as a Principle Mechanical Designer, Parsons Engineering
> > Corporation, Power and Petrochemical Division. I am not a programmer and
> > was forced to use the computer for my engineering documentation.
> >
> > Yours,
> > Charles H. Tankersley
> > aka chtank
> >
>
>
>
> --
> chtank

    Ok. How can I help ? Would you mind give an example ?

Regards,

   Delcides.


From chtank at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 17:16:56 2008
From: chtank at gmail.com (Charles H. Tankersley)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:16:56 -0500
Subject: [openbox] Re: I need help
In-Reply-To: <f99411720803101342n71633eecqc0be395a6f32f8d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47D5CE1F.1040006@gmail.com>
	 <b7d33e000803101118j54d2fd09pc358a2b09fb326e8@mail.gmail.com>
	 <f99411720803101342n71633eecqc0be395a6f32f8d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b7d33e000803101416g452fb4ffg97b7bdd8bfbc8103@mail.gmail.com>

When I used the KDE desktop in PCLOS, I could easily set a link (icon) for
any application to the desktop, but when I tried the same in openbox it
would not work. Since my installation of TinyMe (I tested SAM-Linux first)
about a month ago, I have installed a number of applications via Synaptic.
These include QCad, Blender, inkscape, Xtreme, firefox, thunderbird, pysol,
bluefish, and GIMP. For all I cannot find a way to set them on my desktop
nor my tool bar at the bottom. This must be able to be done easily by a
blind or novice person, otherwise I need to use KDE and not openbox. I have
been going through your documentation looking for answers, but I find that
the documentation uses language that I or any of our novice clients would
never understand. We need to give clear examples in texk large enough for
the vision impaired to see and the text must have all acronyms "spelled out"
at least once so that we know for sure what you are talking about. Remember,
the people who will be using openbox on older machines are totally novice,
non-programmers, and are not command line at all.
Yours,
chtank
ote:

> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > My name is Charles H. Tankersly, aka chtank. I am a volunteer IRC
> > > Network Administrator and chief web master/developer for
> > > http://www.deepspace2.org, a non-profit network to aid and assist the
> > > elderly and disabled computer users mainstream on the Internet.
> > >
> > > I have been testing TinyMe, a product of PCLinuxOS, for use for the
> > > clients of deepspace.org. TinyMe (and minime), however, use openbox
> for
> > > their desktop. I have been touring your documentation to try and find
> > > ways to "fix" some glitches that will enable the blind, vision
> impaired,
> > > and otherwise disabled users to rely on openbox. One of the problems,
> a
> > > serious problem for the disabled and novice user is that all the
> > > "tutorials" are written in geek. Most of us are not knowledgeable with
> > > programming language nor are the able to sue the command line very
> well.
> > > This is why most are remaining with Windows and avoiding much of what
> > > open source has to offer. Can you please help me, too, since I know
> html
> > > and use the W3C Accessibility standards but not commandline nor any
> > > other programming language. BTW, I am 75 years old and retired from
> > > Engineering as a Principle Mechanical Designer, Parsons Engineering
> > > Corporation, Power and Petrochemical Division. I am not a programmer
> and
> > > was forced to use the computer for my engineering documentation.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > Charles H. Tankersley
> > > aka chtank
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > chtank
>
>     Ok. How can I help ? Would you mind give an example ?
>
> Regards,
>
>   Delcides.
>
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


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From chtank at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 17:24:20 2008
From: chtank at gmail.com (Charles H. Tankersley)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:24:20 -0500
Subject: [openbox] Re: I need help
In-Reply-To: <f99411720803101342n71633eecqc0be395a6f32f8d1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47D5CE1F.1040006@gmail.com>
	 <b7d33e000803101118j54d2fd09pc358a2b09fb326e8@mail.gmail.com>
	 <f99411720803101342n71633eecqc0be395a6f32f8d1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b7d33e000803101424s61cb52a8o4d40e79c6db32023@mail.gmail.com>

I forgot to mention, too, that I can come onto OFTC, join #openbox, and then
we can found a channel called #openbox-help if you like. I am also in
#pclinuxos and pclinuxos-support on freenode and have my own IRC link for
irc.deepspace.org, and am in #lobby, #thinktank, and #TKE. On
deepspace.orgI am a netadmin.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Delcides F. Sousa Jr <delcides at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> > > My name is Charles H. Tankersly, aka chtank. I am a volunteer IRC
> > > Network Administrator and chief web master/developer for
> > > http://www.deepspace2.org, a non-profit network to aid and assist the
> > > elderly and disabled computer users mainstream on the Internet.
> > >
> > > I have been testing TinyMe, a product of PCLinuxOS, for use for the
> > > clients of deepspace.org. TinyMe (and minime), however, use openbox
> for
> > > their desktop. I have been touring your documentation to try and find
> > > ways to "fix" some glitches that will enable the blind, vision
> impaired,
> > > and otherwise disabled users to rely on openbox. One of the problems,
> a
> > > serious problem for the disabled and novice user is that all the
> > > "tutorials" are written in geek. Most of us are not knowledgeable with
> > > programming language nor are the able to sue the command line very
> well.
> > > This is why most are remaining with Windows and avoiding much of what
> > > open source has to offer. Can you please help me, too, since I know
> html
> > > and use the W3C Accessibility standards but not commandline nor any
> > > other programming language. BTW, I am 75 years old and retired from
> > > Engineering as a Principle Mechanical Designer, Parsons Engineering
> > > Corporation, Power and Petrochemical Division. I am not a programmer
> and
> > > was forced to use the computer for my engineering documentation.
> > >
> > > Yours,
> > > Charles H. Tankersley
> > > aka chtank
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > chtank
>
>     Ok. How can I help ? Would you mind give an example ?
>
> Regards,
>
>   Delcides.
>
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


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From delcides at gmail.com  Mon Mar 10 20:01:02 2008
From: delcides at gmail.com (Delcides F. Sousa Jr)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:01:02 -0300
Subject: [openbox] Re: I need help
In-Reply-To: <b7d33e000803101416g452fb4ffg97b7bdd8bfbc8103@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47D5CE1F.1040006@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Charles H. Tankersley <chtank at gmail.com> wrote:
> When I used the KDE desktop in PCLOS, I could easily set a link (icon) for
> any application to the desktop, but when I tried the same in openbox it
> would not work. Since my installation of TinyMe (I tested SAM-Linux first)
> about a month ago, I have installed a number of applications via Synaptic.
> These include QCad, Blender, inkscape, Xtreme, firefox, thunderbird, pysol,
> bluefish, and GIMP. For all I cannot find a way to set them on my desktop
> nor my tool bar at the bottom. This must be able to be done easily by a
> blind or novice person, otherwise I need to use KDE and not openbox. I have
> been going through your documentation looking for answers, but I find that
> the documentation uses language that I or any of our novice clients would
> never understand. We need to give clear examples in texk large enough for
> the vision impaired to see and the text must have all acronyms "spelled out"
> at least once so that we know for sure what you are talking about. Remember,
> the people who will be using openbox on older machines are totally novice,
> non-programmers, and are not command line at all.
>  Yours,
> chtank
>
> ote:

     Ok. We have to clear some concepts here: TinyMe uses a handful of
independent programs to build your desktop experience.
     As for the programs themselves and what they do:
     - Openbox: the window manager - draws the titlebar ( including
fonts and buttons) and borders around windows, controls position and
size and handles keyboard shortcuts and mouse clicks.
     - LXPanel: the toolbar at the bottom of your desktop
     - Idesk: the program that draws the icons on your desktop.

    Each one has its own configuration files - the tinyme web page
makes reference to "desktop control center"
(http://www.mypclinuxos.com/doku.php/tinyme:latestrelease), but not
being a user
I wouldn't know how far they went into integration.
     If you find that the control center doesn't work the way you want
or individual configuration is too difficult, you can try a program
named ROX ( http://roscidus.com/desktop/) - it will give you
drag-and-drop icons on the desktop, a toolbar and a file manager (
you'll ditch lxpanel and idesk). For a even more integrated approach,
you can try XFCE (www.xfce.org) - but it will cost a little more on
RAM ( still lighter than KDE, though). XFCE comes with its own window
manager, but it can be replaced by openbox.
      Feel free to contact me privately at delcides at gmail dot com
if you like.

Regards,

Delcides.


From cyberheroo at arcor.de  Tue Mar 11 02:44:23 2008
From: cyberheroo at arcor.de (Sebastian Joseph)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:44:23 +0100
Subject: [openbox] Lock window position?
In-Reply-To: <644991.76259.qm@web50208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <644991.76259.qm@web50208.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47D62A47.90807@arcor.de>

Thank you very much Knute and chmobee, I will try it today afternoon. No 
time til now.

Greetings


From ebzzry at gmail.com  Tue Mar 11 03:56:20 2008
From: ebzzry at gmail.com (Rommel Martinez)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:56:20 +0800
Subject: Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
Message-ID: <391934950803110056o65d46e2cm1a03389f9c2e8581@mail.gmail.com>

Is there a way to make the icons in the ALT-TAB menu bigger?
--
Rommel M. Martinez <ebzzry at gmail.com>


From danakj at orodu.net  Tue Mar 11 12:38:56 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:38:56 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <391934950803110056o65d46e2cm1a03389f9c2e8581@mail.gmail.com>
References: <391934950803110056o65d46e2cm1a03389f9c2e8581@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803110938k74c769bbpa8e8e5d7c84b416b@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/11/08, Rommel Martinez <ebzzry at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there a way to make the icons in the ALT-TAB menu bigger?

Sorry, but there is currently no way to do that.


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Tue Mar 11 12:42:27 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:42:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <391934950803110056o65d46e2cm1a03389f9c2e8581@mail.gmail.com>
References: <391934950803110056o65d46e2cm1a03389f9c2e8581@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803111741140.30759@localhost>

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Rommel Martinez wrote:

> Is there a way to make the icons in the ALT-TAB menu bigger?

If you're not averse to recompiling, you can change the constant ICON_SIZE 
in openbox/focus_cycle_popup.c

--
Mikael Magnusson


From knuteh at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 11 16:07:26 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:07:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803111741140.30759@localhost>
Message-ID: <943920.62256.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Any thoughts on making that an option in the rc.xml??

Knute
--- Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Rommel Martinez wrote:
> 
> > Is there a way to make the icons in the ALT-TAB menu bigger?
> 
> If you're not averse to recompiling, you can change the constant
> ICON_SIZE 
> in openbox/focus_cycle_popup.c
> 
> --
> Mikael Magnusson
> 
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
> 
> 
> 


Knute


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From ebzzry at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 20:37:44 2008
From: ebzzry at gmail.com (Rommel Martinez)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 08:37:44 +0800
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <943920.62256.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803111741140.30759@localhost>
	 <943920.62256.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <391934950803121737j4af56653j8b5f8634077ca2c8@mail.gmail.com>

Sweet! Thanks a lot! Now I have bigger icons for that menu.

The reason why I want bigger icons for the ALT-TAB menu
is that it immediately presents me visual cues as to what
those icons mean or point to, instead of having to decipher
what application does that small icon reference.

Thanks again. Yeah, I think it would be smart to have such
an option in the rc.xml file.

On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Any thoughts on making that an option in the rc.xml??
>
>  Knute
>
>
> --- Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
>
>  > On Tue, 11 Mar 2008, Rommel Martinez wrote:
>  >
>  > > Is there a way to make the icons in the ALT-TAB menu bigger?
>  >
>  > If you're not averse to recompiling, you can change the constant
>  > ICON_SIZE
>  > in openbox/focus_cycle_popup.c
>  >
>  > --
>  > Mikael Magnusson
>  >
>  > ---
>  > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>  Knute
>
>
>
>       ____________________________________________________________________________________
>  Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page.
>  http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>
>
>
>  ---
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>
>
>



-- 
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Wed Mar 12 21:28:01 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:28:01 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <391934950803121737j4af56653j8b5f8634077ca2c8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803111741140.30759@localhost>  <943920.62256.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <391934950803121737j4af56653j8b5f8634077ca2c8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803130224520.28214@localhost>

and hard to follow
it's quite confusing to read
Please don't top post,

On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Rommel Martinez wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Any thoughts on making that an option in the rc.xml??
>
> Sweet! Thanks a lot! Now I have bigger icons for that menu.
>
> The reason why I want bigger icons for the ALT-TAB menu
> is that it immediately presents me visual cues as to what
> those icons mean or point to, instead of having to decipher
> what application does that small icon reference.
>
> Thanks again. Yeah, I think it would be smart to have such
> an option in the rc.xml file.

I thought a lot of that code depended on the size being a constant, but as 
it turns out, changing it to a config variable works just fine. One 
problem is everything crashes if you use too small or too big sizes, so 
I've limited it to [16,96], I trust those values are extreme enough?

--
Mikael Magnusson


From danakj at orodu.net  Wed Mar 12 21:30:21 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:30:21 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803130224520.28214@localhost>
References: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803111741140.30759@localhost>
	 <943920.62256.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803130224520.28214@localhost>
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
> and hard to follow
>  it's quite confusing to read
>  Please don't top post,
>
>
>  On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Rommel Martinez wrote:
>
>  > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  >> Any thoughts on making that an option in the rc.xml??
>  >
>  > Sweet! Thanks a lot! Now I have bigger icons for that menu.
>  >
>  > The reason why I want bigger icons for the ALT-TAB menu
>  > is that it immediately presents me visual cues as to what
>  > those icons mean or point to, instead of having to decipher
>  > what application does that small icon reference.
>  >
>  > Thanks again. Yeah, I think it would be smart to have such
>  > an option in the rc.xml file.
>
>  I thought a lot of that code depended on the size being a constant, but as
>  it turns out, changing it to a config variable works just fine. One
>  problem is everything crashes if you use too small or too big sizes, so
>  I've limited it to [16,96], I trust those values are extreme enough?

A minimum size makes sense like that, but maybe on a really high
resolution display, 96 is quite small.  I think it should be something
much larger, maybe 1024?  As long as making them bigger than the
display doesn't have adverse affects beyond its appearance.  And if
so, then we should fix that. :)

dana


From ebzzry at gmail.com  Wed Mar 12 21:37:17 2008
From: ebzzry at gmail.com (Rommel Martinez)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:37:17 +0800
Subject: [openbox] Make ALT-TAB menu icons bigger
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803121830s55c5a632y760d869ac93c1667@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803111741140.30759@localhost>
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	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803130224520.28214@localhost>
	 <b3502dfb0803121830s55c5a632y760d869ac93c1667@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <391934950803121837k591447bdk6c3056ea573af76e@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Dana Jansens <danakj at orodu.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
>  > and hard to follow
>  >  it's quite confusing to read
>  >  Please don't top post,
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Thu, 13 Mar 2008, Rommel Martinez wrote:
>  >
>  >  > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 4:07 AM, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
>  >  >> Any thoughts on making that an option in the rc.xml??
>  >  >
>  >  > Sweet! Thanks a lot! Now I have bigger icons for that menu.
>  >  >
>  >  > The reason why I want bigger icons for the ALT-TAB menu
>  >  > is that it immediately presents me visual cues as to what
>  >  > those icons mean or point to, instead of having to decipher
>  >  > what application does that small icon reference.
>  >  >
>  >  > Thanks again. Yeah, I think it would be smart to have such
>  >  > an option in the rc.xml file.
>  >
>  >  I thought a lot of that code depended on the size being a constant, but as
>  >  it turns out, changing it to a config variable works just fine. One
>  >  problem is everything crashes if you use too small or too big sizes, so
>  >  I've limited it to [16,96], I trust those values are extreme enough?
>
>  A minimum size makes sense like that, but maybe on a really high
>  resolution display, 96 is quite small.  I think it should be something
>  much larger, maybe 1024?  As long as making them bigger than the
>  display doesn't have adverse affects beyond its appearance.  And if
>  so, then we should fix that. :)
>
>  dana
>
>
>
>  ---
>  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>

ATM, I'm using 64 as the value of ICON_SIZE. I've played around with 128 and
it still looks fine. :-)

-- 
Rommel M. Martinez <ebzzry at gmail.com>


From jazz-openbox at zqz.dk  Thu Mar 13 04:36:40 2008
From: jazz-openbox at zqz.dk (Lars Chr. Hausmann)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:36:40 +0100
Subject: [openbox] Digest mode possible?
In-Reply-To: <20080307224416.GA15722@gozer.dminteractive.com> (Mike Hokenson's
	message of "Fri, 7 Mar 2008 16:44:16 -0600")
References: <20080307000838.GA7169@minerva>
	<20080307191504.25047fa0@office.folderol.ukfsn.org>
	<9b14de940803071250l26064034me6e556e201aac40@mail.gmail.com>
	<7d81675b0803071303j6f0548eq39b953c8a31cc223@mail.gmail.com>
	<9b14de940803071344u418eb418u98ac962db69cf9a0@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY111-W25851A44568397BE5A7E2A96130@phx.gbl>
	<20080307224416.GA15722@gozer.dminteractive.com>
Message-ID: <87wso7t3zb.fsf@lan.hausmann.dk>

Mike Hokenson <openbox at gozer.org> writes:

> I'm not familiar with EZMLM, but it sounds like this is usually
> accomplished with another list (openbox-digest at icculus.org) and it
> doesn't seem like there is one.

Digest mode is an option which must be enabled for the list. I.e. it
can be toggled on and off per list basis. So someone should ask
icculus.org to enable it, if wanted. 



From hasse at ramlev.dk  Thu Mar 13 08:02:10 2008
From: hasse at ramlev.dk (Hasse R. Hansen)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:02:10 +0100
Subject: multi screen and maximize windows issue
Message-ID: <47D917C2.7040806@ramlev.dk>

Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external screen, it 
behaves kinda wierd.

1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
2. background images stretches out over both screens

i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to use 
openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?

-- 
:o)
Hasse Ramlev Hansen
ramlev.dk


From jeromeguigue at gmail.com  Thu Mar 13 08:11:42 2008
From: jeromeguigue at gmail.com (jerome guigue)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:11:42 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <47D917C2.7040806@ramlev.dk>
References: <47D917C2.7040806@ramlev.dk>
Message-ID: <ed14c55d0803130511k609efa4bwe68f5183ecf3cb25@mail.gmail.com>

I have the same problem. I was wondering what's wrong in my xorg.conf
about xinerama and twinview syntax.

2008/3/13, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk>:
> Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external screen, it
>  behaves kinda wierd.
>
>  1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
>  2. background images stretches out over both screens
>
>  i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to use
>  openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?
>
>
>  --
>  :o)
>  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
>  ramlev.dk
>
>  ---
>  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


From jeromeguigue at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 08:36:11 2008
From: jeromeguigue at gmail.com (jerome guigue)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 13:36:11 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <ed14c55d0803130511k609efa4bwe68f5183ecf3cb25@mail.gmail.com>
References: <47D917C2.7040806@ramlev.dk>
	 <ed14c55d0803130511k609efa4bwe68f5183ecf3cb25@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>

Any idea ?

2008/3/13, jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com>:
> I have the same problem. I was wondering what's wrong in my xorg.conf
>  about xinerama and twinview syntax.
>
>  2008/3/13, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk>:
>
> > Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external screen, it
>  >  behaves kinda wierd.
>  >
>  >  1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
>  >  2. background images stretches out over both screens
>  >
>  >  i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to use
>  >  openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?
>  >
>  >
>  >  --
>  >  :o)
>  >  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
>  >  ramlev.dk
>  >
>  >  ---
>  >  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  >  Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>  >
>  >
>  >
>


From knuteh at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 14 08:52:19 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:52:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com> wrote:

> Any idea ?
> 
> 2008/3/13, jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com>:
> > I have the same problem. I was wondering what's wrong in my
> xorg.conf
> >  about xinerama and twinview syntax.
> >

The only idea that I have is that your question is impossible to
answer, simply because there is not enough information.

Seriously, read your question above, and think about what we need to
answer your question.

> >  2008/3/13, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk>:
> >
> > > Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external
> screen, it
> >  >  behaves kinda wierd.
> >  >
> >  >  1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
> >  >  2. background images stretches out over both screens
> >  >
> >  >  i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to
> use
> >  >  openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >  --
> >  >  :o)
> >  >  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
> >  >  ramlev.dk
> >  >
> >  >  ---
> >  >  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
> openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> >  >  Mailing list archives:
> http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> 
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
> 
> 
> 


Knute


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From jeromeguigue at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 09:28:12 2008
From: jeromeguigue at gmail.com (jerome guigue)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:28:12 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>
	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I configured my xorg.conf for a dual screen use with nvidia
twinveiw options. Now when i maximise a window it spread over the two
screens, when i change the desktop, the desktop incon appears on the
edges both screens and so on : openbox doesn't apply the xinerama
behaviour.

2008/3/14, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com>:
>
>  --- jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  > Any idea ?
>  >
>  > 2008/3/13, jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com>:
>  > > I have the same problem. I was wondering what's wrong in my
>  > xorg.conf
>  > >  about xinerama and twinview syntax.
>  > >
>
>
> The only idea that I have is that your question is impossible to
>  answer, simply because there is not enough information.
>
>  Seriously, read your question above, and think about what we need to
>  answer your question.
>
>
>  > >  2008/3/13, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk>:
>  > >
>  > > > Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external
>  > screen, it
>  > >  >  behaves kinda wierd.
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
>  > >  >  2. background images stretches out over both screens
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to
>  > use
>  > >  >  openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?
>  > >  >
>  > >  >
>  > >  >  --
>  > >  >  :o)
>  > >  >  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
>  > >  >  ramlev.dk
>  > >  >
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>
> Knute
>
>
>
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Mar 14 09:32:18 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:32:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
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References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>  <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost>

If you run
ldd /usr/bin/openbox
or maybe it's in /usr/local/bin/openbox
does it say libXinerama anywhere?

On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, jerome guigue wrote:

> Well, I configured my xorg.conf for a dual screen use with nvidia
> twinveiw options. Now when i maximise a window it spread over the two
> screens, when i change the desktop, the desktop incon appears on the
> edges both screens and so on : openbox doesn't apply the xinerama
> behaviour.
>
> 2008/3/14, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com>:
>>
>>  --- jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Any idea ?
>> >
>> > 2008/3/13, jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com>:
>> >> I have the same problem. I was wondering what's wrong in my
>> > xorg.conf
>> >>  about xinerama and twinview syntax.
>> >>
>>
>>
>> The only idea that I have is that your question is impossible to
>>  answer, simply because there is not enough information.
>>
>>  Seriously, read your question above, and think about what we need to
>>  answer your question.
>>
>>
>> >>  2008/3/13, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk>:
>> >>
>> >>> Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external
>> > screen, it
>> >> >  behaves kinda wierd.
>> >> >
>> >> >  1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
>> >> >  2. background images stretches out over both screens
>> >> >
>> >> >  i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to
>> > use
>> >> >  openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >  --
>> >> >  :o)
>> >> >  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
>> >> >  ramlev.dk
>> >> >
>> >> >  ---
>> >> >  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
>> > openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>> >> >  Mailing list archives:
>> > http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> > ---
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>> > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> Knute
>>
>>
>>
>>       ____________________________________________________________________________________
>>  Be a better friend, newshound, and
>>  know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
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>>
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From jeromeguigue at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 10:54:14 2008
From: jeromeguigue at gmail.com (jerome guigue)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 15:54:14 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>
	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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yes
stdout : libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00002b122b991000)


2008/3/14, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se>:
> If you run
>  ldd /usr/bin/openbox
>  or maybe it's in /usr/local/bin/openbox
>  does it say libXinerama anywhere?
>
>
>  On Fri, 14 Mar 2008, jerome guigue wrote:
>
>  > Well, I configured my xorg.conf for a dual screen use with nvidia
>  > twinveiw options. Now when i maximise a window it spread over the two
>  > screens, when i change the desktop, the desktop incon appears on the
>  > edges both screens and so on : openbox doesn't apply the xinerama
>  > behaviour.
>  >
>  > 2008/3/14, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com>:
>  >>
>  >>  --- jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com> wrote:
>  >>
>  >> > Any idea ?
>  >> >
>  >> > 2008/3/13, jerome guigue <jeromeguigue at gmail.com>:
>  >> >> I have the same problem. I was wondering what's wrong in my
>  >> > xorg.conf
>  >> >>  about xinerama and twinview syntax.
>  >> >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> The only idea that I have is that your question is impossible to
>  >>  answer, simply because there is not enough information.
>  >>
>  >>  Seriously, read your question above, and think about what we need to
>  >>  answer your question.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> >>  2008/3/13, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk>:
>  >> >>
>  >> >>> Im running openbox on my laptop, and if i attach an external
>  >> > screen, it
>  >> >> >  behaves kinda wierd.
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >  1. if i try to maximize a window, it opens on both screens.
>  >> >> >  2. background images stretches out over both screens
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >  i have tried in fluxbox, and there is no problem, but I want to
>  >> > use
>  >> >> >  openbox. is it possible to tweak openbox to handle that ?
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >  --
>  >> >> >  :o)
>  >> >> >  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
>  >> >> >  ramlev.dk
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >  ---
>  >> >> >  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to
>  >> > openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  >> >> >  Mailing list archives:
>  >> > http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >
>  >> >> >
>  >> >>
>  >> >
>  >> > ---
>  >> > To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  >> > Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >> >
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> Knute
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>       ____________________________________________________________________________________
>  >>  Be a better friend, newshound, and
>  >>  know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile.  Try it now.  http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
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>  >
>  >
>
>  --
>
> Mikael Magnusson
>
>
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>
>
>


From daf at minuslab.net  Fri Mar 14 11:01:23 2008
From: daf at minuslab.net (Dave Foster)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 11:01:23 -0400
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <ed14c55d0803140754o44b84c0epd3d22556322625b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	 <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost> <ed14c55d0803140754o44b84c0epd3d22556322625b3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net>

jerome guigue wrote:
> yes
> stdout : libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x00002b122b991000)
>   

What Knute was driving at was the fact that if you feel your xorg.conf / 
related files are in error, that you should be posting them here.  You 
wouldn't tell a mechanic there's something wrong with your brakes and 
not let him look at it.

dave



From hasse at ramlev.dk  Fri Mar 14 11:48:10 2008
From: hasse at ramlev.dk (Hasse R. Hansen)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:48:10 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	 <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost> <ed14c55d0803140754o44b84c0epd3d22556322625b3@mail.gmail.com> <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net>
Message-ID: <47DA9E3A.8080809@ramlev.dk>

you can see my xorg.conf here


-- 
:o)
Hasse Ramlev Hansen
ramlev.dk


Dave Foster wrote:
> jerome guigue wrote:
>> yes
>> stdout : libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 
>> (0x00002b122b991000)
>>   
> 
> What Knute was driving at was the fact that if you feel your xorg.conf / 
> related files are in error, that you should be posting them here.  You 
> wouldn't tell a mechanic there's something wrong with your brakes and 
> not let him look at it.
> 
> dave
> 
> 
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
> 
> 


From hasse at ramlev.dk  Fri Mar 14 11:48:17 2008
From: hasse at ramlev.dk (Hasse R. Hansen)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 16:48:17 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	 <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost> <ed14c55d0803140754o44b84c0epd3d22556322625b3@mail.gmail.com> <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net>
Message-ID: <47DA9E41.5030303@ramlev.dk>

here http://pastebin.com/m324a2ee4

-- 
:o)
Hasse Ramlev Hansen
ramlev.dk


Dave Foster wrote:
> jerome guigue wrote:
>> yes
>> stdout : libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXinerama.so.1 
>> (0x00002b122b991000)
>>   
> 
> What Knute was driving at was the fact that if you feel your xorg.conf / 
> related files are in error, that you should be posting them here.  You 
> wouldn't tell a mechanic there's something wrong with your brakes and 
> not let him look at it.
> 
> dave
> 
> 
> ---
> To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
> Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
> 
> 


From fwojciec at gmail.com  Fri Mar 14 12:47:10 2008
From: fwojciec at gmail.com (Filip Wojciechowski)
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:47:10 -0400
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <47DA9E41.5030303@ramlev.dk>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>
	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	 <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>
	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost>
	 <ed14c55d0803140754o44b84c0epd3d22556322625b3@mail.gmail.com>
	 <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net> <47DA9E41.5030303@ramlev.dk>
Message-ID: <57702de10803140947w2b2bed08qad070c6ebfc02378@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Hasse R. Hansen <hasse at ramlev.dk> wrote:
> here http://pastebin.com/m324a2ee4
>
>  --
>
> :o)
>  Hasse Ramlev Hansen
>  ramlev.dk
>

First post to this list so hello everybody :)

Maybe I can help in this case, maybe...  My setup is also nvidia
based, but slightly different -- I have two screens which are on
permanently, but what I can tell you that when the server flag
"Xinerama" is enabled the two displays are treated as one screen;
switching this flag to off results in screens being treated as
separate entities (you still retain the ability to move windows
between screens and such, though).

In other words, you could try changing your xinerama server flag to

Section "ServerFlags"
       Option          "Xinerama"      "off"
EndSection

and see if that changes anything.

Filip


From viktor at varland.se  Sat Mar 15 09:18:15 2008
From: viktor at varland.se (Viktor Varland)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:18:15 +0100
Subject: Tiling capabilites of openbox
Message-ID: <20080315131815.GB23380@veronika.bsnet.se>

Hi,

I have been "almost happy" with my environment for a a while, but I've
come to realise some annoyances with an all-tiling environment (xmonad).

I was wondering if there are any extensions, or efforts, in giving
Openbox some "tiling" features. Not automatic tiling, but "expand this
window horistonally/vertically until it hits another window" kind of
tiling (like auto-properties in another wm which name escapes me). 

Is this possible?

-- 
h. Viktor Varland
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Mar 15 09:39:53 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:39:53 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] Tiling capabilites of openbox
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2008, Viktor Varland wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have been "almost happy" with my environment for a a while, but I've
> come to realise some annoyances with an all-tiling environment (xmonad).
>
> I was wondering if there are any extensions, or efforts, in giving
> Openbox some "tiling" features. Not automatic tiling, but "expand this
> window horistonally/vertically until it hits another window" kind of
> tiling (like auto-properties in another wm which name escapes me).
>
> Is this possible?

There is no effort in progress for implementing this, since it's already 
implemented.
http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Actions#GrowToEdgeNorth
I'm not sure how it relates to auto-properties though (per-app settings in 
openbox).

--
Mikael Magnusson


From jeromeguigue at gmail.com  Sun Mar 16 07:03:09 2008
From: jeromeguigue at gmail.com (jerome guigue)
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:03:09 +0100
Subject: [openbox] multi screen and maximize windows issue
In-Reply-To: <57702de10803140947w2b2bed08qad070c6ebfc02378@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ed14c55d0803140536q67d9eb38k4c7abf0efff72b40@mail.gmail.com>
	 <403964.31189.qm@web50205.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	 <ed14c55d0803140628t74d12b34yf0245a414484eec6@mail.gmail.com>
	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803141431500.32024@localhost>
	 <ed14c55d0803140754o44b84c0epd3d22556322625b3@mail.gmail.com>
	 <47DA9343.6050307@minuslab.net> <47DA9E41.5030303@ramlev.dk>
	 <57702de10803140947w2b2bed08qad070c6ebfc02378@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ed14c55d0803160403o73454af5k1c86e542fa47a98c@mail.gmail.com>

That works. Thank you !!

>  Maybe I can help in this case, maybe...  My setup is also nvidia
>  based, but slightly different -- I have two screens which are on
>  permanently, but what I can tell you that when the server flag
>  "Xinerama" is enabled the two displays are treated as one screen;
>  switching this flag to off results in screens being treated as
>  separate entities (you still retain the ability to move windows
>  between screens and such, though).
>
>  In other words, you could try changing your xinerama server flag to
>
>  Section "ServerFlags"
>        Option          "Xinerama"      "off"
>  EndSection
>
>  and see if that changes anything.
>
>
>  Filip
>
>
>  ---
>  To unsubscribe, send a blank email to openbox-unsubscribe at icculus.org
>  Mailing list archives: http://icculus.org/cgi-bin/ezmlm/ezmlm-cgi?24
>
>
>


From gupta.parminder at gmail.com  Wed Mar 19 15:21:46 2008
From: gupta.parminder at gmail.com (parminder gupta)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 15:21:46 -0400
Subject: Openbox XFCE integration problems
Message-ID: <bbaa7d120803191221q3757319bkf22da5b44efac9e9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

First of all let me say that Openbox3 is an amazing window manager. Per
application setting along with support for multiple monitors practically
blew me away.

But I am having some problems with integrating Openbox with XFCE. I am
running the whole XFCE environment (xfdesktop, xfce4-panel) with xfwm4
replaced with Openbox.

I am having the following issues:

   1. I run Evolution (need to connect to my office email) wrapped in
   Alltray so that it minimizes to the system tray. This works fine with xfwm4,
   but when running under Openbox, trying to minimize Evolution to system tray,
   will not remove the entry from taskbar in xfce4-panel.
   2. I cannot get Conky to play nice with Openbox under XFCE. I have
   tried setting the Conky window (I use the own_window option) type to both
   normal and desktop. When used with window_type=Desktop, conky gets hidden
   when I click anywhere else on the desktop. When used with
   window_type=normal, using the Show_desktop key binding in Openbox causes
   Conky to be minimized as well

I know these issues may not really be related to Openbox, but I am hoping
that someone here has found some solution to these issues.

Thanks,
Parminder
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From danakj at orodu.net  Thu Mar 20 11:53:34 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:53:34 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Openbox XFCE integration problems
In-Reply-To: <bbaa7d120803191221q3757319bkf22da5b44efac9e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bbaa7d120803191221q3757319bkf22da5b44efac9e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803200853y4cf95bb4t854d00a18c697e2b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Parminder,

On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:21 PM, parminder gupta
<gupta.parminder at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> First of all let me say that Openbox3 is an amazing window manager. Per
> application setting along with support for multiple monitors practically
> blew me away.

:)

> But I am having some problems with integrating Openbox with XFCE. I am
> running the whole XFCE environment (xfdesktop, xfce4-panel) with xfwm4
> replaced with Openbox.

XFCE hasn't been deigned to play well with others so this isn't the
most tested environment for Openbox.  Your feedback is really helpful.
:)

> I am having the following issues:
>
> I run Evolution (need to connect to my office email) wrapped in Alltray so
> that it minimizes to the system tray. This works fine with xfwm4, but when
> running under Openbox, trying to minimize Evolution to system tray, will not
> remove the entry from taskbar in xfce4-panel.

I'm not familiar with Alltray, so I can't comment on this without
trying it out and seeing what is going on myself.  If you could put
this into the bug tracker, that'd be really helpful so I don't forget
to look at it before 3.4.7.  I've been quite busy lately so no time to
be working on Openbox stuff, so I'll have to defer comment for a bit.

> I cannot get Conky to play nice with Openbox under XFCE. I have tried
> setting the Conky window (I use the own_window option) type to both normal
> and desktop. When used with window_type=Desktop, conky gets hidden when I
> click anywhere else on the desktop. When used with window_type=normal, using
> the Show_desktop key binding in Openbox causes Conky to be minimized as well
> I know these issues may not really be related to Openbox, but I am hoping
> that someone here has found some solution to these issues.

I know what's going on here perfectly.  Most people, I guess, run
conky as a "desktop window" without a big desktop window like you have
with xfdesktop.  You can take the "Raise" action out of your rc.xml
file, for the "Desktop" context, and then clicking a desktop window
(like xfdesktop) won't raise it over others (like conky).  I'm not
sure if that's a change that should be reflected in the default rc.xml
or not.

Cheers,
Dana


From gupta.parminder at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 00:13:52 2008
From: gupta.parminder at gmail.com (Parminder Gupta)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:13:52 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Openbox XFCE integration problems
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803200853y4cf95bb4t854d00a18c697e2b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bbaa7d120803191221q3757319bkf22da5b44efac9e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<b3502dfb0803200853y4cf95bb4t854d00a18c697e2b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080321001352.68fc19e9.gupta.parminder@gmail.com>

Hi Dana,

Thanks for the tip on Conky. Removing the "raise" directive in Desktop context
fixed the problem. I will put the Alltray issue into Bugtracker sometime
tomorrow. Alltray has a debug option, but I could not make much sense of the
generated output. If you think it will help, I will put that into the bug
tracker too.

Thanks,
Parminder

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:53:34 -0400
"Dana Jansens" <danakj at orodu.net> wrote:

> Hi Parminder,
> 
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 3:21 PM, parminder gupta
> <gupta.parminder at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > First of all let me say that Openbox3 is an amazing window manager. Per
> > application setting along with support for multiple monitors practically
> > blew me away.
> 
> :)
> 
> > But I am having some problems with integrating Openbox with XFCE. I am
> > running the whole XFCE environment (xfdesktop, xfce4-panel) with xfwm4
> > replaced with Openbox.
> 
> XFCE hasn't been deigned to play well with others so this isn't the
> most tested environment for Openbox.  Your feedback is really helpful.
> :)
> 
> > I am having the following issues:
> >
> > I run Evolution (need to connect to my office email) wrapped in Alltray so
> > that it minimizes to the system tray. This works fine with xfwm4, but when
> > running under Openbox, trying to minimize Evolution to system tray, will not
> > remove the entry from taskbar in xfce4-panel.
> 
> I'm not familiar with Alltray, so I can't comment on this without
> trying it out and seeing what is going on myself.  If you could put
> this into the bug tracker, that'd be really helpful so I don't forget
> to look at it before 3.4.7.  I've been quite busy lately so no time to
> be working on Openbox stuff, so I'll have to defer comment for a bit.
> 
> > I cannot get Conky to play nice with Openbox under XFCE. I have tried
> > setting the Conky window (I use the own_window option) type to both normal
> > and desktop. When used with window_type=Desktop, conky gets hidden when I
> > click anywhere else on the desktop. When used with window_type=normal, using
> > the Show_desktop key binding in Openbox causes Conky to be minimized as well
> > I know these issues may not really be related to Openbox, but I am hoping
> > that someone here has found some solution to these issues.
> 
> I know what's going on here perfectly.  Most people, I guess, run
> conky as a "desktop window" without a big desktop window like you have
> with xfdesktop.  You can take the "Raise" action out of your rc.xml
> file, for the "Desktop" context, and then clicking a desktop window
> (like xfdesktop) won't raise it over others (like conky).  I'm not
> sure if that's a change that should be reflected in the default rc.xml
> or not.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dana
> 
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From knuteh at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 21 13:38:57 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 10:38:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: menu overlap issue
Message-ID: <821287.91084.qm@web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

I had some time today, and figured that I would play with the menu
overlap settings.

In short, they aren't working.

Here's a screenshot of the settings version and issue.

http://knuteh.deviantart.com/art/Openbox-menu-overlap-issue-80605363

Basically the menu.overlap.x is set to 50, and the menu.overlap.y is
set to -50,  yet the menu doesn't overlap, as the screenshot shows.

I have saved the themerc, and did the reconfigure, and am not sure if
the format has changed from the online documentation, or it's just not
working.  :)  (or even, heaven forbid, I fat fingered it, and haven't
yet noticed!)

Wasn't sure whether to file this in bugzilla or not, so figured that
I'ld post it here first and see.  

TIA,

Knute


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From mikachu at gmail.com  Fri Mar 21 22:19:08 2008
From: mikachu at gmail.com (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:19:08 +0100
Subject: [openbox] menu overlap issue
In-Reply-To: <821287.91084.qm@web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <821287.91084.qm@web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <237967ef0803211919m29304facxf8d4a8a26509736d@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/03/2008, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I had some time today, and figured that I would play with the menu
>  overlap settings.
>
>  In short, they aren't working.
>
>  Here's a screenshot of the settings version and issue.
>
>  http://knuteh.deviantart.com/art/Openbox-menu-overlap-issue-80605363
>
>  Basically the menu.overlap.x is set to 50, and the menu.overlap.y is
>  set to -50,  yet the menu doesn't overlap, as the screenshot shows.
>
>  I have saved the themerc, and did the reconfigure, and am not sure if
>  the format has changed from the online documentation, or it's just not
>  working.  :)  (or even, heaven forbid, I fat fingered it, and haven't
>  yet noticed!)
>
>  Wasn't sure whether to file this in bugzilla or not, so figured that
>  I'ld post it here first and see.

A good first step is to post said themerc.

-- 
Mikael Magnusson


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Mar 21 22:40:57 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:40:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] menu overlap issue
In-Reply-To: <821287.91084.qm@web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <821287.91084.qm@web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803220340250.15106@localhost>

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Knute wrote:

> I had some time today, and figured that I would play with the menu
> overlap settings.
>
> In short, they aren't working.
>
> Here's a screenshot of the settings version and issue.
>
> http://knuteh.deviantart.com/art/Openbox-menu-overlap-issue-80605363
>
> Basically the menu.overlap.x is set to 50, and the menu.overlap.y is
> set to -50,  yet the menu doesn't overlap, as the screenshot shows.
>
> I have saved the themerc, and did the reconfigure, and am not sure if
> the format has changed from the online documentation, or it's just not
> working.  :)  (or even, heaven forbid, I fat fingered it, and haven't
> yet noticed!)
>
> Wasn't sure whether to file this in bugzilla or not, so figured that
> I'ld post it here first and see.

Also, what version of openbox are you using?

--
Mikael Magnusson


From knuteh at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 22 00:04:13 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:04:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] menu overlap issue
In-Reply-To: <237967ef0803211919m29304facxf8d4a8a26509736d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <848540.16738.qm@web50211.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Mikael Magnusson <mikachu at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21/03/2008, Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I had some time today, and figured that I would play with the menu
> >  overlap settings.
> >
> >  In short, they aren't working.
> >
> >  Here's a screenshot of the settings version and issue.
> >
> > 
> http://knuteh.deviantart.com/art/Openbox-menu-overlap-issue-80605363
> >
> >  Basically the menu.overlap.x is set to 50, and the menu.overlap.y
> is
> >  set to -50,  yet the menu doesn't overlap, as the screenshot
> shows.
> >
> >  I have saved the themerc, and did the reconfigure, and am not sure
> if
> >  the format has changed from the online documentation, or it's just
> not
> >  working.  :)  (or even, heaven forbid, I fat fingered it, and
> haven't
> >  yet noticed!)
> >
> >  Wasn't sure whether to file this in bugzilla or not, so figured
> that
> >  I'ld post it here first and see.
> 
> A good first step is to post said themerc.
> 

hehehe... Yeah...  Didn't think of that.  Here it is.  :)


 11:01PM % cat .themes/Mine/openbox-3/themerc                         ~
(knute)
# Window geometry
padding.width: 2
border.width: 4
window.client.padding.width: 1
window.client.padding.height: 0
window.handle.width: 3

# Menu geometry
menu.border.width: 5
#menu.overlap: 15
menu.overlap.x: 50
menu.overlap.y: -50
menu.separator.padding.width: 75 

# Border colors
window.active.border.color: #00aa00
window.inactive.border.color: #990044
menu.border.color: #009900
window.active.client.color: #000099
window.inactive.client.color: #990000
window.active.title.separator.color: #007700
window.inactive.title.separator.color: #770000

# Text shadows
window.active.label.text.font: shadow=y:shadowtint=70:shadowoffset=1
window.inactive.label.text.font: shadow=y:shadowtint=20:shadowoffset=1
menu.items.font: shadow=n
menu.title.text.font: shadow=y:shadowtint=70:shadowoffset=1

# Window title justification
window.label.text.justify: Center

# Active window
window.active.title.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
window.active.title.bg.color: #009900
window.active.title.bg.colorTo: #002200
window.active.title.bg.interlace.color: #006600

window.active.label.bg: Parentrelative
window.active.label.text.color: #aaff00

window.active.handle.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
window.active.handle.bg.color: #009900
window.active.handle.bg.colorTo: #002200

window.active.grip.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
window.active.grip.bg.color: #009900
window.active.grip.bg.colorTo: #002200

window.active.button.unpressed.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
Border
window.active.button.unpressed.bg.color: #009900
window.active.button.unpressed.bg.colorTo: #00aa00
window.active.button.unpressed.bg.border.color: #00cc00
window.active.button.unpressed.image.color: #002200

window.active.button.pressed.bg: Sunken Gradient MirrorHorizontal
Border
window.active.button.pressed.bg.color: #002200
window.active.button.pressed.bg.colorTo: #009900
window.active.button.pressed.bg.border.color: #00ff00
window.active.button.pressed.image.color: #00ff00

window.active.button.disabled.bg: Flat Gradient MirrorHorizontal Border
window.active.button.disabled.bg.color: #002200
window.active.button.disabled.bg.colorTo: #004400
window.active.button.disabled.bg.border.color: #00ff00
window.active.button.disabled.image.color: #00ff00

window.active.button.hover.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal Border
window.active.button.hover.bg.color: #00aa00
window.active.button.hover.bg.colorTo: #007700
window.active.button.hover.bg.border.color: #00ff00
window.active.button.hover.image.color: #00ff00

# Inactive windows
window.inactive.title.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
window.inactive.title.bg.color: #990000
window.inactive.title.bg.colorTo: #220000

window.inactive.label.bg: Parentrelative
window.inactive.label.text.color: #ffff00

window.inactive.handle.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
window.inactive.handle.bg.color: #f10000
window.inactive.handle.bg.colorTo: #d80000

window.inactive.grip.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
window.inactive.grip.bg.color: #f10000
window.inactive.grip.bg.colorTo: #d80000

window.inactive.button.unpressed.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
Border
window.inactive.button.unpressed.bg.color: #990000
window.inactive.button.unpressed.bg.colorTo: #aa0000
window.inactive.button.unpressed.bg.border.color: #cc0000
window.inactive.button.unpressed.image.color: #440000

window.inactive.button.pressed.bg: Sunken Gradient MirrorHorizontal
Border

window.inactive.button.disabled.bg: Flat Gradient MirrorHorizontal
Border
window.inactive.button.disabled.bg.color: #220000
window.inactive.button.disabled.bg.colorTo: #440000
window.inactive.button.disabled.bg.border.color: #ff0000
window.inactive.button.disabled.image.color: #ff0000

window.inactive.button.hover.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
Border
window.inactive.button.hover.bg.color: #aa0000
window.inactive.button.hover.bg.colorTo: #770000
window.inactive.button.hover.bg.border.color: #ff0000
window.inactive.button.hover.image.color: #ff0000

# Menus
menu.title.bg: Raised Gradient Pyramid
menu.title.bg.color: #000f00
menu.title.bg.colorTo: #4d6982
menu.title.text.color: #ffffff
menu.title.text.justify: Center

menu.items.bg: Flat Gradient Horizontal
menu.items.bg.color: #004400
menu.items.bg.colorTo: #007700
menu.items.text.color: #00ff00
menu.items.disabled.text.color: #aaaaaa

menu.items.active.bg: Raised Gradient MirrorHorizontal
menu.items.active.bg.colorTo: #426c00
menu.items.active.bg.color: #772277
menu.items.active.text.color: #ffff00
menu.items.active.disabled.text.color: #00aa00

# OSD (alt-tab)
osd.border.color: #777700

# need textures 
osd.bg: ParentRelative Gradient MirrorHorizontal Raised Border
osd.label.bg: Gradient MirrorHorizontal Sunken Border
osd.hilight.bg: Solid Raised Border
osd.unhilight.bg: Solid Sunken Border

# need colors
osd.label.text.color: #ffff22
osd.label.bg.colorTo: #204a00
osd.label.bg.color: #552255
osd.label.hilight.color: #00ff00
osd.label.unhilight.color: #ff0000
osd.bg.colorTo: #426c00
osd.bg.color: #009900
osd.hilight.bg.color: #772277
osd.unhilight.bg.color: #227722




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From knuteh at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 22 00:07:45 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:07:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] menu overlap issue
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803220340250.15106@localhost>
Message-ID: <90479.88827.qm@web50202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:

> On Fri, 21 Mar 2008, Knute wrote:
> 
> > Here's a screenshot of the settings version and issue.
> >
> >
> http://knuteh.deviantart.com/art/Openbox-menu-overlap-issue-80605363
> >
>
> Also, what version of openbox are you using?
> 

It is in the screenshot, but it's :
 11:05PM % openbox --version     
Openbox 3.4.7-pre2


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From knuteh at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 23 11:39:20 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:39:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Executing an action on program exit
Message-ID: <934402.32174.qm@web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Ok, I am wanting to be able to have an action wait until a program ends
before it executes.

I play Neverwinter Nights, and if I have pulseaudio running, the sound
is scratchy and yuck.

When I turn pulseaudio off, the sound is fine, so what I'm wanting to
do, is to have pulseaudio restarted after nwn exits, and I'm not sure
how to do that.

Here's what I have so far:

 <item label="NWN">
                        <action name="Execute">
                                <execute>
                                                /usr/bin/aumix -w88
                                </execute>
                        </action>
                        <action name="Execute">
                                <execute>
                                                pulseaudio -k
                                </execute>
                        </action-->
                        <action name="Execute">
                                <execute>
                                                /usr/games/bin/nwn
                                </execute>
                        </action>
                </item>

I don't have any application specific anything set up for nwn, so this
is from my gamesmenu.

TIA,

Knute


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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sun Mar 23 11:53:28 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 16:53:28 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] Executing an action on program exit
In-Reply-To: <934402.32174.qm@web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <934402.32174.qm@web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803231651490.25438@localhost>

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Knute wrote:

> Ok, I am wanting to be able to have an action wait until a program ends
> before it executes.

You probably want something like
<action name="execute">
   <command>sh -c 'command1; command2; command3'</command>
</action>

--
Mikael Magnusson


From knuteh at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 23 11:55:19 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 08:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] Executing an action on program exit
In-Reply-To: <934402.32174.qm@web50212.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <644842.97418.qm@web50209.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> Here's what I have so far:
> 
>  <item label="NWN">
>                         <action name="Execute">
>                                 <execute>
>                                                 /usr/bin/aumix -w88
>                                 </execute>
>                         </action>
>                         <action name="Execute">
>                                 <execute>
>                                                 pulseaudio -k
>                                 </execute>
>                         </action-->
>                         <action name="Execute">
>                                 <execute>
>                                                 /usr/games/bin/nwn
>                                 </execute>
>                         </action>
>                 </item>
> 

I just added this to the end after the nwn command:

 <action name="Execute">
                            <prompt>
                                "Restart PulseAudio??"
                            </prompt>
                            <execute>
                                pulseaudio
                            </execute>
                        </action>

Unfortunately it didn't work.
Not sure about the prompt option because there is no example on the
documentation page.  :)


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From knuteh at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 23 12:13:26 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:13:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] Executing an action on program exit
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803231651490.25438@localhost>
Message-ID: <224833.23339.qm@web50207.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Knute wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I am wanting to be able to have an action wait until a program
> ends
> > before it executes.
> 
> You probably want something like
> <action name="execute">
>    <command>sh -c 'command1; command2; command3'</command>
> </action>
> 

Thanks,  I didn't even think of that.  *blushing*

Here's what I have now, and just looking at it, it should work.

                <item label="NWN">
                        <action name="Execute">
                                <execute>
                                    <command> sh -c /usr/bin/aumix
-w88;pulseaudio -k;/usr/games/bin/nwn;pulseaudio
                                </execute>
                        </action>
                </item>



Thanks again!  :)


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From pc_warner at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 23 21:43:26 2008
From: pc_warner at yahoo.com (Phillip Warner)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 18:43:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: imlib2 support and other features planned?
Message-ID: <637877.59212.qm@web57702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can choose to build Openbox with support for root menu icons)?

Also, as far as I know there is not an action to auto-arrange windows (split them among the screen like a tiling WM).  Is this planned for the future?

If these are currently not planned features I hope they will be soon.

Thank you for a great window manager!

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From danakj at orodu.net  Sun Mar 23 21:46:41 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 21:46:41 -0400
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <637877.59212.qm@web57702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <637877.59212.qm@web57702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803231846y686674e0w43968bf50fc609c5@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Phillip Warner <pc_warner at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
> choose to build Openbox with support for root menu icons)?

I would like this as well, so yeah. :)

> Also, as far as I know there is not an action to auto-arrange windows (split
> them among the screen like a tiling WM).  Is this planned for the future?

I'm considering adding some tiling capabilities to Openbox, letting
you optionally change windows into/out of tiled mode.

> If these are currently not planned features I hope they will be soon.
>
> Thank you for a great window manager!

Cheers,
Dana


From pc_warner at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 23 22:07:48 2008
From: pc_warner at yahoo.com (Phillip Warner)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:07:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803231846y686674e0w43968bf50fc609c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <880704.17827.qm@web57706.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Wow, that was a really fast response!  Thanks for the info, Dana!

--phil

Dana Jansens <danakj at orodu.net> wrote: On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Phillip Warner 
 wrote:
> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
> choose to build Openbox with support for root menu icons)?

I would like this as well, so yeah. :)

> Also, as far as I know there is not an action to auto-arrange windows (split
> them among the screen like a tiling WM).  Is this planned for the future?

I'm considering adding some tiling capabilities to Openbox, letting
you optionally change windows into/out of tiled mode.

> If these are currently not planned features I hope they will be soon.
>
> Thank you for a great window manager!

Cheers,
Dana

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From knuteh at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 24 02:44:17 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 23:44:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] menu overlap issue [SOLVED]
In-Reply-To: <90479.88827.qm@web50202.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <752246.62400.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>


--- Knute <knuteh at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
> > >
> >
> > Also, what version of openbox are you using?
> > 
> 
> It is in the screenshot, but it's :
>  11:05PM % openbox --version     
> Openbox 3.4.7-pre2
> 


I fixed it.  Still don't know what else was going on...

Anyway, this evening, the desktop kinda stopped, so I had to
<Ctrl><Alt><Backspace> out of X, and then I logged all the way out....

I never log into X, always the console.

... and then when I logged back in, the menus were doing what they were
supposed to with menu.overlap.x  and menu.overlap.y .... and even the
separators were set ...  not how I had intended, but it was extreme
enough that I noticed!  :)

Normally when I'm dinking with my theme file, all I have to do is
reconfigure and the changes take effect.  What is happening where these
aren't taking effect without restarting?

Hrmmm.... Well,  I just played with the theme again and it's working
now.  (Never thought that I would have to remind myself of the 3 R's of
Microsoft tech support.. *shudder*)

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From chl.tux at gmail.com  Mon Mar 24 09:28:35 2008
From: chl.tux at gmail.com (Christian Larsson)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 14:28:35 +0100
Subject: separate xscreen
Message-ID: <6f580a410803240628r4e9be1f9p600d5616312c8791@mail.gmail.com>

I have set up my lcd-tv as a separate x-screen using nvidia-settings.
When I start openbox-session, openbox only starts at my first monitor. But
when I then start openbox on the other screen using the DISPLAY: command
openbox opens up on my tv.
But the resolution on of all the applications(like the fonts) are very
small. Is there any way to fix this?

Also, I have tried to enable xineramain nvidia-settings.Openbox then works
as expected and all the applications gets the correct resolution.
But that setup does'nt behave as I like. First, if there already is a window
on the desktop, openbox does'nt open new windows on the same desktop, it
opens themon my tv.
There are also some problem with windows maximizing on the wrong screen.

I would be grateful for all your help. And if you need more information or I
have made myself unclear, please let me know,

//Christian
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From danakj at orodu.net  Mon Mar 24 09:35:21 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:35:21 -0400
Subject: [openbox] separate xscreen
In-Reply-To: <6f580a410803240628r4e9be1f9p600d5616312c8791@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f580a410803240628r4e9be1f9p600d5616312c8791@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803240635i306bde83xe09ad12c2e6f199b@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Christian Larsson <chl.tux at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have set up my lcd-tv as a separate x-screen using nvidia-settings.
> When I start openbox-session, openbox only starts at my first monitor. But
> when I then start openbox on the other screen using the DISPLAY: command
> openbox opens up on my tv.
>  But the resolution on of all the applications(like the fonts) are very
> small. Is there any way to fix this?

Set the DPI in your xorg.conf.

> Also, I have tried to enable xineramain nvidia-settings.Openbox then works
> as expected and all the applications gets the correct resolution.
>  But that setup does'nt behave as I like. First, if there already is a
> window on the desktop, openbox does'nt open new windows on the same desktop,
> it opens themon my tv.

You might want to look at the <monitor> option under <placement>.

http://git.icculus.org/?p=mikachu/openbox.git;a=blob;f=data/rc.xml;hb=3.4-working

> There are also some problem with windows maximizing on the wrong screen.

Afaik, windows should maximize on the same monitor as they currently
occupy.  Can you provide a reproducible  test scenario of the problem?


From chl.tux at gmail.com  Mon Mar 24 11:05:56 2008
From: chl.tux at gmail.com (Christian Larsson)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:05:56 +0100
Subject: [openbox] separate xscreen
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803240635i306bde83xe09ad12c2e6f199b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f580a410803240628r4e9be1f9p600d5616312c8791@mail.gmail.com>
	 <b3502dfb0803240635i306bde83xe09ad12c2e6f199b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6f580a410803240805h36c2eeb7t45916f29a1dbd18a@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the quick reply.
I've set the DPI manually and now everything works.

Concerning the maximized windws. I tried to replicate it, but it only
appeared when I used vlc. So it's probably not openbox related
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From doth.gschwind at gmail.com  Mon Mar 24 11:07:54 2008
From: doth.gschwind at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=C3=AEt_Gschwind?=)
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 16:07:54 +0100
Subject: [openbox] separate xscreen
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803240635i306bde83xe09ad12c2e6f199b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6f580a410803240628r4e9be1f9p600d5616312c8791@mail.gmail.com>
	 <b3502dfb0803240635i306bde83xe09ad12c2e6f199b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <254c4e990803240807i7ca26218v62e66255dd795c8@mail.gmail.com>

An other way is to use per user .Xresources file.

mine look like :

$ cat $HOME/.Xresources
Xft.dpi: 96

Best regards ;)

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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Tue Mar 25 17:31:59 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:31:59 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <b3502dfb0803231846y686674e0w43968bf50fc609c5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <637877.59212.qm@web57702.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <b3502dfb0803231846y686674e0w43968bf50fc609c5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803252231100.22525@localhost>

On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Dana Jansens wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Phillip Warner <pc_warner at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
>> choose to build Openbox with support for root menu icons)?
>
> I would like this as well, so yeah. :)

This just got submitted (independently)
http://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3580

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From yetanothergeek at gmail.com  Tue Mar 25 17:59:49 2008
From: yetanothergeek at gmail.com (Jeff Pohlmeyer)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:59:49 -0500
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803252231100.22525@localhost>
References: <637877.59212.qm@web57702.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	 <b3502dfb0803231846y686674e0w43968bf50fc609c5@mail.gmail.com>
	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803252231100.22525@localhost>
Message-ID: <a275e6d00803251459u1a863099wde314da3c5af6a80@mail.gmail.com>

>  >> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
>  > I would like this as well, so yeah. :)
>  This just got submitted (independently)


I hope this will be a compile-time option, so people
who don't want another dependency can disable it.

 - Jeff


From knuteh at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 25 18:14:08 2008
From: knuteh at yahoo.com (Knute)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 15:14:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Not responding dialog box
Message-ID: <620458.24712.qm@web50204.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Ok, this just started happening,  when firefox takes a bit to shut
down, a dialog box is now popping up with a couple of options.

Honestly, I liked when it would just put [Not Responding] in the title
bar, and then a second click on the close button killed the window. 
This dialog box, in my opinion, while nice for testing/debugging/etc,
blows for normal operation.  I just don't like it.

How do I turn it off?

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From pc_warner at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 25 22:46:55 2008
From: pc_warner at yahoo.com (Phillip Warner)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:46:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <a275e6d00803251459u1a863099wde314da3c5af6a80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <513251.82876.qm@web57704.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

agreed

--phil

Jeff Pohlmeyer <yetanothergeek at gmail.com> wrote: >  >> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
>  > I would like this as well, so yeah. :)
>  This just got submitted (independently)


I hope this will be a compile-time option, so people
who don't want another dependency can disable it.

 - Jeff

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From pc_warner at yahoo.com  Tue Mar 25 22:59:32 2008
From: pc_warner at yahoo.com (Phillip Warner)
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 19:59:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803252231100.22525@localhost>
Message-ID: <257961.30053.qm@web57712.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Looks pretty good.  I'll have to check this out.

Thank you for the info!

--phil

Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote: On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Dana Jansens wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Phillip Warner 
 wrote:
>> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
>> choose to build Openbox with support for root menu icons)?
>
> I would like this as well, so yeah. :)

This just got submitted (independently)
http://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3580

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From doth.gschwind at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 05:02:05 2008
From: doth.gschwind at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Beno=C3=AEt_Gschwind?=)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:02:05 +0100
Subject: [openbox] imlib2 support and other features planned?
In-Reply-To: <257961.30053.qm@web57712.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803252231100.22525@localhost>
	 <257961.30053.qm@web57712.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <254c4e990803260202l3c7eec17n65169fe6f961e6af@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I currently work on this bug :
http://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3484

It will allow peoples to make their own plugin which draw frame
border, menu and every graphical things

feel free to create your own plugin which use imlib2. I had done a
draft that use gdk_pixbuf, but I don't maintain it because I have a
lot of thing to do to improve plugin interfaces.

current source are here :
git clone git://repo.or.cz/openbox/manual.git
git checkout -b openbox_plugin origin/plugin_experimental

This version is under developement, read bugzilla thread for more detail.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Phillip Warner <pc_warner at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Looks pretty good.  I'll have to check this out.
>
> Thank you for the info!
>
> --phil
>
>
> Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 23 Mar 2008, Dana Jansens wrote:
>
>
> > On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 9:43 PM, Phillip Warner wrote:
> >> Is imlib2 support going to be an option in the future (ie. so users can
> >> choose to build Openbox with support for root menu icons)?
> >
> > I would like this as well, so yeah. :)
>
> This just got submitted (independently)
> http://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3580
>
> --
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>
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From fwojciec at gmail.com  Wed Mar 26 15:22:01 2008
From: fwojciec at gmail.com (Filip Wojciechowski)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:22:01 -0400
Subject: Mouse-wheel desktop switching (possible feature request?)
Message-ID: <57702de10803261222g4963d892t2a8673172d9ffeb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

This is a tiny problem I have when using my laptop.  I have it set up
so that sliding a finger along the horizontal (right) edge of the
touchpad imitates the mouse-wheel and enables scrolling.  However,
this kind of scrolling cannot be used to switch desktops comfortably,
because the touchpad is too sensitive (a movement of 1mm is enough to
switch the desktop, but in practice it is easier to rotate through all
the desktops three times over than to switch to the next one).

Beryl, when I last used it a while back, had a configuration option
that enabled the user to set the number of mouse-wheel rotations
necessary to switch the desktop, so I could set it to 10 or so, which
made desktop switching with the touchpad work very nicely on my
laptop.  Is there any way to achieve a similar effect with Openbox?
Or could something like this be added as a feature (so that this could
could be configured from rc.xml)?

Thanks,
Filip Wojciechowski


From folderol at ukfsn.org  Wed Mar 26 15:31:09 2008
From: folderol at ukfsn.org (Folderol)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:31:09 +0000
Subject: [openbox] Mouse-wheel desktop switching (possible feature
 request?)
In-Reply-To: <57702de10803261222g4963d892t2a8673172d9ffeb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <57702de10803261222g4963d892t2a8673172d9ffeb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080326193109.53c33bf4@64studio>

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:22:01 -0400
"Filip Wojciechowski" <fwojciec at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> This is a tiny problem I have when using my laptop.  I have it set up
> so that sliding a finger along the horizontal (right) edge of the
> touchpad imitates the mouse-wheel and enables scrolling.  However,
> this kind of scrolling cannot be used to switch desktops comfortably,
> because the touchpad is too sensitive (a movement of 1mm is enough to
> switch the desktop, but in practice it is easier to rotate through all
> the desktops three times over than to switch to the next one).
> 
> Beryl, when I last used it a while back, had a configuration option
> that enabled the user to set the number of mouse-wheel rotations
> necessary to switch the desktop, so I could set it to 10 or so, which
> made desktop switching with the touchpad work very nicely on my
> laptop.  Is there any way to achieve a similar effect with Openbox?
> Or could something like this be added as a feature (so that this could
> could be configured from rc.xml)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Filip Wojciechowski

This had been a very minor problem for me with an over-sensitive mouse
(I use a different one now) so I agree that something in the rc file for
sensitivity would be very helpful.

-- 
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http://www.musically.me.uk


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Wed Mar 26 16:24:57 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:24:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] Mouse-wheel desktop switching (possible feature
 request?)
In-Reply-To: <20080326193109.53c33bf4@64studio>
References: <57702de10803261222g4963d892t2a8673172d9ffeb@mail.gmail.com> <20080326193109.53c33bf4@64studio>
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803262124040.6904@localhost>

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008, Folderol wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:22:01 -0400
> "Filip Wojciechowski" <fwojciec at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is a tiny problem I have when using my laptop.  I have it set up
>> so that sliding a finger along the horizontal (right) edge of the
>> touchpad imitates the mouse-wheel and enables scrolling.  However,
>> this kind of scrolling cannot be used to switch desktops comfortably,
>> because the touchpad is too sensitive (a movement of 1mm is enough to
>> switch the desktop, but in practice it is easier to rotate through all
>> the desktops three times over than to switch to the next one).
>>
>> Beryl, when I last used it a while back, had a configuration option
>> that enabled the user to set the number of mouse-wheel rotations
>> necessary to switch the desktop, so I could set it to 10 or so, which
>> made desktop switching with the touchpad work very nicely on my
>> laptop.  Is there any way to achieve a similar effect with Openbox?
>> Or could something like this be added as a feature (so that this could
>> could be configured from rc.xml)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Filip Wojciechowski
>
> This had been a very minor problem for me with an over-sensitive mouse
> (I use a different one now) so I agree that something in the rc file for
> sensitivity would be very helpful.

Weird, I just thought about this the other day for the first time too :). 
I would suggest creating a feature request entry in the bugzilla (or 
sending a patch of course).

--
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Thu Mar 27 10:42:40 2008
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 15:42:40 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [openbox] openbox 3.4.7-pre3 test release
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803271540130.19230@localhost>

Hi all,

I'd like to inform you that we have released an Openbox 3.4.7-pre3
tarball.  This mostly contains translation updates, but also some minor 
bug fixes.  Most of the bugfixes fix regressions since 3.4.6.1.

I hope some of you will try it out and let us know of any problems! :)

You can find it here: http://openbox.org/openbox-3.4.7-pre3.tar.gz

Thanks!

-- 
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From fwojciec at gmail.com  Thu Mar 27 10:57:30 2008
From: fwojciec at gmail.com (Filip Wojciechowski)
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:57:30 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Mouse-wheel desktop switching (possible feature request?)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803262124040.6904@localhost>
References: <57702de10803261222g4963d892t2a8673172d9ffeb@mail.gmail.com>
	 <20080326193109.53c33bf4@64studio>
	 <alpine.LNX.1.00.0803262124040.6904@localhost>
Message-ID: <57702de10803270757g7cd2af3cq1c15a15b87af4574@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
(snip)
>  Weird, I just thought about this the other day for the first time too :).
>  I would suggest creating a feature request entry in the bugzilla (or
>  sending a patch of course).
>
>  --
>  Mikael Magnusson

Thanks for the suggestion Mikael -- done:
http://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3581

Best regards,
Filip


From kavehmz at yahoo.com  Sun Mar 30 07:44:49 2008
From: kavehmz at yahoo.com (Kaveh Mousavi)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 04:44:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Open window completely over panel
Message-ID: <293003.46073.qm@web65101.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>

Hi, 
I am trying to open a new window, in a program in
java, using setLoation. It must open completely over a
panel in button of screen.

No matter what is my Y number. openbox window manager
prevent it to be comptletely over panel (It will open
it about 5 pixels above the panel).

Is there any way that openbox let me to do this?

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From delcides at gmail.com  Sun Mar 30 09:35:19 2008
From: delcides at gmail.com (Delcides F. Sousa Jr)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 10:35:19 -0300
Subject: [openbox] Open window completely over panel
In-Reply-To: <293003.46073.qm@web65101.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>
References: <293003.46073.qm@web65101.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <f99411720803300635h6bae38erd6ab7775afc3246d@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Kaveh Mousavi <kavehmz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  I am trying to open a new window, in a program in
>  java, using setLoation. It must open completely over a
>  panel in button of screen.
>
>  No matter what is my Y number. openbox window manager
>  prevent it to be comptletely over panel (It will open
>  it about 5 pixels above the panel).
>
>  Is there any way that openbox let me to do this?
>
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    What are your margin settings ?


From danakj at orodu.net  Sun Mar 30 09:39:48 2008
From: danakj at orodu.net (Dana Jansens)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:39:48 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Open window completely over panel
In-Reply-To: <293003.46073.qm@web65101.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>
References: <293003.46073.qm@web65101.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b3502dfb0803300639j7167a9c6qee3edc91a5b2715e@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Kaveh Mousavi <kavehmz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  I am trying to open a new window, in a program in
>  java, using setLoation. It must open completely over a
>  panel in button of screen.
>
>  No matter what is my Y number. openbox window manager
>  prevent it to be comptletely over panel (It will open
>  it about 5 pixels above the panel).
>
>  Is there any way that openbox let me to do this?

Change your panel's settings to allow applications to cover it, or
make the window a fullscreen window.


From kavehmz at yahoo.com  Mon Mar 31 04:04:07 2008
From: kavehmz at yahoo.com (Kaveh Mousavi)
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:04:07 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [openbox] Open window completely over panel
In-Reply-To: <f99411720803300635h6bae38erd6ab7775afc3246d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <367706.90043.qm@web65104.mail.ac2.yahoo.com>


--- "Delcides F. Sousa Jr" <delcides at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 8:44 AM, Kaveh Mousavi
> <kavehmz at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  I am trying to open a new window, in a program in
> >  java, using setLoation. It must open completely
> over a
> >  panel in button of screen.
> >
> >  No matter what is my Y number. openbox window
> manager
> >  prevent it to be comptletely over panel (It will
> open
> >  it about 5 pixels above the panel).
> >
> >  Is there any way that openbox let me to do this?
> >

> >
>     What are your margin settings ?
> 

margins has been set to 0

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