From greypins at nc.rr.com  Wed Aug 16 23:37:53 2006
From: greypins at nc.rr.com (mike obrien)
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 23:37:53 -0400
Subject: touchpad
Message-ID: <44E3E491.4010907@nc.rr.com>

how do i shut my touchpad off in openbox?   i got a system76 laptop a 
while back and have found turning off the touchpad (in gnome) to be 
wicked useful (unless i'm using it, of course).

mike


From postlogic at 37com.net  Thu Aug 17 13:55:31 2006
From: postlogic at 37com.net (Michael Kjelbergvik Thung)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:55:31 +0200
Subject: [openbox] touchpad
In-Reply-To: <44E3E491.4010907@nc.rr.com>
References: <44E3E491.4010907@nc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <44E4AD93.4000900@37com.net>

mike obrien wrote:
> how do i shut my touchpad off in openbox?   i got a system76 laptop a 
> while back and have found turning off the touchpad (in gnome) to be 
> wicked useful (unless i'm using it, of course).
>
> mike
>
>
You should be able to add a relevant touchpad section using the 
synaptics driver, and then simply ignoring it in xorg.conf. It's a 
workaround off the top of my head, so I'm not sure if it will work, but 
there you go.


From skytte at gmail.com  Thu Aug 17 13:58:25 2006
From: skytte at gmail.com (Martin Skytte)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 19:58:25 +0200
Subject: [openbox] touchpad
In-Reply-To: <44E4AD93.4000900@37com.net>
References: <44E3E491.4010907@nc.rr.com> <44E4AD93.4000900@37com.net>
Message-ID: <ac5f76150608171058s4eb844d3s676a002fa2821d11@mail.gmail.com>

2006/8/17, Michael Kjelbergvik Thung <postlogic at 37com.net>:
> mike obrien wrote:
> > how do i shut my touchpad off in openbox?   i got a system76 laptop a
> > while back and have found turning off the touchpad (in gnome) to be
> > wicked useful (unless i'm using it, of course).
> >
> > mike
> >
My laptop has a hardware on/off switch (Fn+F6) perhaps yours have
something similar?


From greypins at nc.rr.com  Thu Aug 17 23:38:56 2006
From: greypins at nc.rr.com (mike obrien)
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 23:38:56 -0400
Subject: [openbox] touchpad
In-Reply-To: <ac5f76150608171058s4eb844d3s676a002fa2821d11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44E3E491.4010907@nc.rr.com> <44E4AD93.4000900@37com.net> <ac5f76150608171058s4eb844d3s676a002fa2821d11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44E53650.1070108@nc.rr.com>

turns out gsynaptics does the trick.   thanks for the answers, guys.

mike


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Aug 18 16:24:23 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:24:23 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: Please test CVS
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>

So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to 
release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version 
of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of 
themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are 
using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From jose1711 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 16:36:10 2006
From: jose1711 at gmail.com (Jozef Riha)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:36:10 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
Message-ID: <51be034e0608181336y7e8ae025n1fe60e1fcd892d95@mail.gmail.com>

no chance to see dockapps sorting option in cvs before 3.3 is out?
thank you for reply, joe

On 8/18/06, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to
> release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version
> of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of
> themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are
> using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.
>
> --
> Mikael Magnusson
>


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Aug 18 16:41:21 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:41:21 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <51be034e0608181336y7e8ae025n1fe60e1fcd892d95@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182240160.20343@localhost>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Jozef Riha wrote:

> no chance to see dockapps sorting option in cvs before 3.3 is out?
> thank you for reply, joe

Not unless you supply a working patch, it's not something i would want to 
spend time on just to save the 5 seconds extra it takes to wait on the 
sleep command between each dockapp launch.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From david at chalkskeletons.com  Fri Aug 18 16:46:27 2006
From: david at chalkskeletons.com (David Barr)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:46:27 +0100
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <51be034e0608181336y7e8ae025n1fe60e1fcd892d95@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
	 <51be034e0608181336y7e8ae025n1fe60e1fcd892d95@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1155933987.10105.2.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 22:36 +0200, Jozef Riha wrote:
> no chance to see dockapps sorting option in cvs before 3.3 is out?
> thank you for reply, joe
> 

as far as i am concerned, if you use dock apps, that are, let's be
honest, pretty outdated, you have to accept that they are not going to
be great and that any attempt to make them good is wasted time. they are
a bit hackery and if you want to be hackery too you can sort them
yourself :)

bon chance!!

David 

> On 8/18/06, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
> > So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to
> > release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version
> > of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of
> > themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are
> > using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.
> >
> > --
> > Mikael Magnusson
> >
> 
> 



From henrik.enberg at telia.com  Fri Aug 18 17:19:32 2006
From: henrik.enberg at telia.com (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:19:32 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060818211932.GA21231@rocksteady.printf.se>

Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> writes:

> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to 
> release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version 
> of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of 
> themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are 
> using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.

The new titleNumber option doesn't seem to work for me. I've added
<titleNumber>no</titleNumber> to the "theme" section of rc.xml, but I
still get the numbers.


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Aug 18 17:22:56 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:22:56 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <20060818211932.GA21231@rocksteady.printf.se>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
 <20060818211932.GA21231@rocksteady.printf.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182322330.20746@localhost>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Henrik Enberg wrote:

> Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> writes:
>
>> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to
>> release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version
>> of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of
>> themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are
>> using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.
>
> The new titleNumber option doesn't seem to work for me. I've added
> <titleNumber>no</titleNumber> to the "theme" section of rc.xml, but I
> still get the numbers.

Haha, I didn't actually add any code to parse the key from the config 
file, nice.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Aug 18 17:25:57 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:25:57 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182322330.20746@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
 <20060818211932.GA21231@rocksteady.printf.se> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182322330.20746@localhost>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182325320.22800@localhost>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Mikael Magnusson wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Henrik Enberg wrote:
>
>>  Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> writes:
>> 
>> >  So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to
>> >  release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest 
>> >  version
>> >  of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of
>> >  themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are
>> >  using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.
>>
>>  The new titleNumber option doesn't seem to work for me. I've added
>>  <titleNumber>no</titleNumber> to the "theme" section of rc.xml, but I
>>  still get the numbers.
>
> Haha, I didn't actually add any code to parse the key from the config file, 
> nice.

Okay, i did add it, but it was a copypaste so it actually assigned the 
value to hideDisabled.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From jose1711 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 17:33:53 2006
From: jose1711 at gmail.com (Jozef Riha)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:33:53 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182325320.22800@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
	 <20060818211932.GA21231@rocksteady.printf.se>
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	 <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182325320.22800@localhost>
Message-ID: <51be034e0608181433s7d386f9ey47e4d58c6f00e8a9@mail.gmail.com>

for the dockapps. i inserted sleep 0.01 between each dockapp and now
it works! thank you for tip, cool.. btw: i have not found any
replacement for dockapps..

cheers, joe

On 8/18/06, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Henrik Enberg wrote:
> >
> >>  Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> writes:
> >>
> >> >  So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to
> >> >  release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest
> >> >  version
> >> >  of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of
> >> >  themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are
> >> >  using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.
> >>
> >>  The new titleNumber option doesn't seem to work for me. I've added
> >>  <titleNumber>no</titleNumber> to the "theme" section of rc.xml, but I
> >>  still get the numbers.
> >
> > Haha, I didn't actually add any code to parse the key from the config file,
> > nice.
>
> Okay, i did add it, but it was a copypaste so it actually assigned the
> value to hideDisabled.
>
> --
> Mikael Magnusson
>


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Fri Aug 18 17:39:01 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:39:01 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <51be034e0608181433s7d386f9ey47e4d58c6f00e8a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost> 
 <20060818211932.GA21231@rocksteady.printf.se>  <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182322330.20746@localhost>
  <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182325320.22800@localhost>
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Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182337590.24382@localhost>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Jozef Riha wrote:

> for the dockapps. i inserted sleep 0.01 between each dockapp and now
> it works! thank you for tip, cool.. btw: i have not found any
> replacement for dockapps..
>
> cheers, joe

Usually a longer sleep is required, but if it works that is good. I am 
also one of the people who "still" use dockapps :).

--
Mikael Magnusson

PS if you reply to the right mail it would be better, and not top post DS


From lostson at lostsonsvault.org  Fri Aug 18 17:53:51 2006
From: lostson at lostsonsvault.org (lostson)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 16:53:51 -0500
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <51be034e0608181433s7d386f9ey47e4d58c6f00e8a9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182325320.22800@localhost> <51be034e0608181433s7d386f9ey47e4d58c6f00e8a9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200608181653.56242.lostson@lostsonsvault.org>

On Friday 18 August 2006 16:33, Jozef Riha wrote:
> for the dockapps. i inserted sleep 0.01 between each dockapp and now
> it works! thank you for tip, cool.. btw: i have not found any
> replacement for dockapps..
>
> cheers, joe

 Try gkrellm 

 http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html

 or maybe conky 

 http://conky.sourceforge.net/

-- 
LostSon

http://www.lostsonsvault.org

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From henrik.enberg at telia.com  Fri Aug 18 17:41:46 2006
From: henrik.enberg at telia.com (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:41:46 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
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Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> writes:

> Okay, i did add it, but it was a copypaste so it actually assigned the 
> value to hideDisabled.

Yup.  Works fine now.


From blixel at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 17:44:35 2006
From: blixel at gmail.com (David Courtney)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:44:35 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182337590.24382@localhost>
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> I am also one of the people who "still" use dockapps :).
>

ditto.  I'm not sure what the alternative is anyway.  I don't consider
gdesklets, adesklets, a viable alternative.  They look pretty ... but
that's about it.  And since desklets are so oddly shaped, they just
end up hidden behind your windows anyway.  My dock apps are never
hidden.  I like the 64x64 pixel uniformity of dock apps.  I also like
that they are (usually) written in C and are compiled into a normal
binary executable.


From jose1711 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 17:45:50 2006
From: jose1711 at gmail.com (Jozef Riha)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 23:45:50 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <200608181653.56242.lostson@lostsonsvault.org>
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gkrellm looks nice but it does not have:
- birthday calendar
- calendar w/ a monthly view
- a clipboard tool

i know conky and i am using to monitor the space on hdds but you
cannot tell apps not to cover conky window. dockapp space is something
like a sacred area for them :-)

thanks anyways, joe

On 8/18/06, lostson <lostson at lostsonsvault.org> wrote:
> On Friday 18 August 2006 16:33, Jozef Riha wrote:
> > for the dockapps. i inserted sleep 0.01 between each dockapp and now
> > it works! thank you for tip, cool.. btw: i have not found any
> > replacement for dockapps..
> >
> > cheers, joe
>
>  Try gkrellm
>
>  http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
>
>  or maybe conky
>
>  http://conky.sourceforge.net/
>
> --
> LostSon
>
> http://www.lostsonsvault.org


From david at chalkskeletons.com  Fri Aug 18 17:58:58 2006
From: david at chalkskeletons.com (David Barr)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:58:58 +0100
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <200608181653.56242.lostson@lostsonsvault.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
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	 <200608181653.56242.lostson@lostsonsvault.org>
Message-ID: <1155938338.10105.7.camel@localhost.localdomain>

i have nothing to say here except: hi lostson, glad you are alive and
well 

i still do not like dock apps, but each to their own.


On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 16:53 -0500, lostson wrote:
> On Friday 18 August 2006 16:33, Jozef Riha wrote:
> > for the dockapps. i inserted sleep 0.01 between each dockapp and now
> > it works! thank you for tip, cool.. btw: i have not found any
> > replacement for dockapps..
> >
> > cheers, joe
> 
>  Try gkrellm 
> 
>  http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
> 
>  or maybe conky 
> 
>  http://conky.sourceforge.net/
> 



From blixel at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 20:38:11 2006
From: blixel at gmail.com (David Courtney)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 20:38:11 -0400
Subject: Dual head + 1 monitor
Message-ID: <4692d7510608181738g578fa92dqcc0e25e38dcfc2fc@mail.gmail.com>

If you're not a multiple monitor person, you can ignore this thread.

For the past 2+ years, I've been enjoying OpenBox's wonderful handling
of dual-head display.  My primary video card is (currently) as
follows:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce
6600/GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2)

It has dual DVI output which drive two of my Hitachi CML174SX LCD displays.

With my xorg.conf file configured for TwinView (using the proprietary
nvidia drivers) I've had flawless dual head video display.

If I maximize a window on the left monitor, it expands to fill only
the left monitor.  If I drag a window to the edge of the right
monitor, it knows to "resist" at the edge of the left/right monitor.
(Not so be a suck up, but OpenBox handles dual displays better than
any other WM I've used.  And I've tried *many* other WM's.)

So.  No problem so far....

Today I added a PCI video card to my machine, as follows:

00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX
5200] (rev a1)

I intended it to drive my 3rd Hitachi CML174SX LCD display.

I updated my xorg.conf as follows (relevant sections only):

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Default Layout"
    Screen         0 "Default Screen"
    Screen         1 "Left Wing" LeftOf "Default Screen"
    InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
    InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier     "CML174SX"
    HorizSync       24.0 - 80.0
    VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
    Option         "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
    Driver         "nvidia"
    BusID          "01:00:0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
	Identifier	"NVidia GeForce 5200FX"
	Driver		"nvidia"
	BusID		"00:19:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier     "Default Screen"
    Device         "Generic Video Card"
    Monitor        "CML174SX"
    DefaultDepth    24
    Option         "NoLogo" "1"
    Option         "TwinView"
    Option         "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
    Option         "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024"
    SubSection     "Display"
        Depth       24
        Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
	Identifier	"Left Wing"
	Device		"NVidia GeForce 5200FX"
	Monitor		"CML174SX"
	DefaultDepth	24
	Option		"NoLogo" "1"
	SubSection	"Display"
		Depth	24
		Modes	"1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
	EndSubSection
EndSection


As was before, when I enter the X Window System, my primary two panels
(driven my the AGP card) are seen as 1 wide display.  (Which is what I
want.)

The far left panel ("Left Wing") is driven my the PCI card and is
independent of the primary panels.  (Which is, also, what I want.)

The problem I'm now experiencing (finally getting to the point) is
that windows on my primary 2 panels no longer behave properly.  By
"properly", I mean when I maximize a window on either display, it now
fills the screen on both displays.  When I move a window the edge of
one screen, there is no resistance at the border.  It's as if the two
primary panels now "think" that they are physically 1 screen.

The "Left Wing" panel is behaving properly.  I have a 2nd instance of
OpenBox running on that display (:0.1).  When I maximize a window, it
only fills that screen.  When I move a window near any edge, it
resists as it should.

So my question is about the primary two panels.  Why are they now
acting as though they have become 1 physical screen with no edge
resistance between them?  Has anyone experienced this?  Is my
configuration obviously wrong?


From kacperw at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 22:11:17 2006
From: kacperw at gmail.com (Kacper Wysocki)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 04:11:17 +0200
Subject: CVS compile error: LC_CTYPE undeclared
In-Reply-To: <367a23780608181906r18ee1cb0hcd5dc4b675ab6394@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,
render/font.c has

#if USE_PANGO && !ENABLE_NLS
#include <locale.h>
#endif

which results in the following compile error when pango is on and nls is off
(which seems to be the default on my system at least):

render/font.c: In function 'font_startup':
render/font.c:65: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
render/font.c: In function 'openfont':
render/font.c:139: error: 'LC_CTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
render/font.c:139: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
render/font.c:139: error: for each function it appears in.)
render/font.c:139: warning: passing argument 1 of 'g_strdup' makes
pointer from integer without a cast
make[1]: *** [render/render_libobrender_la-font.lo] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/comotion/downloads/cvs/openbox'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Including locale.h unconditionally in font.c fixes the problem.

Cheers,
-Kacper


From troycurtisjr at gmail.com  Fri Aug 18 22:34:23 2006
From: troycurtisjr at gmail.com (Troy Curtis Jr)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 21:34:23 -0500
Subject: [openbox] Dual head + 1 monitor
In-Reply-To: <4692d7510608181738g578fa92dqcc0e25e38dcfc2fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4692d7510608181738g578fa92dqcc0e25e38dcfc2fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4148457f0608181934t515b3b83v5e34310f6486643c@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/18/06, David Courtney <blixel at gmail.com> wrote:
> If you're not a multiple monitor person, you can ignore this thread.
>
> For the past 2+ years, I've been enjoying OpenBox's wonderful handling
> of dual-head display.  My primary video card is (currently) as
> follows:
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce
> 6600/GeForce 6600 GT] (rev a2)
>
> It has dual DVI output which drive two of my Hitachi CML174SX LCD displays.
>
> With my xorg.conf file configured for TwinView (using the proprietary
> nvidia drivers) I've had flawless dual head video display.
>
> If I maximize a window on the left monitor, it expands to fill only
> the left monitor.  If I drag a window to the edge of the right
> monitor, it knows to "resist" at the edge of the left/right monitor.
> (Not so be a suck up, but OpenBox handles dual displays better than
> any other WM I've used.  And I've tried *many* other WM's.)
>
> So.  No problem so far....
>
> Today I added a PCI video card to my machine, as follows:
>
> 00:13.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX
> 5200] (rev a1)
>
> I intended it to drive my 3rd Hitachi CML174SX LCD display.
>
> I updated my xorg.conf as follows (relevant sections only):
>
> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "Default Layout"
>     Screen         0 "Default Screen"
>     Screen         1 "Left Wing" LeftOf "Default Screen"
>     InputDevice    "Generic Keyboard"
>     InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Monitor"
>     Identifier     "CML174SX"
>     HorizSync       24.0 - 80.0
>     VertRefresh     56.0 - 75.0
>     Option         "DPMS"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier     "Generic Video Card"
>     Driver         "nvidia"
>     BusID          "01:00:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
>         Identifier      "NVidia GeForce 5200FX"
>         Driver          "nvidia"
>         BusID           "00:19:0"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>     Identifier     "Default Screen"
>     Device         "Generic Video Card"
>     Monitor        "CML174SX"
>     DefaultDepth    24
>     Option         "NoLogo" "1"
>     Option         "TwinView"
>     Option         "TwinViewOrientation" "RightOf"
>     Option         "MetaModes" "1280x1024,1280x1024"
>     SubSection     "Display"
>         Depth       24
>         Modes      "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>     EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
> Section "Screen"
>         Identifier      "Left Wing"
>         Device          "NVidia GeForce 5200FX"
>         Monitor         "CML174SX"
>         DefaultDepth    24
>         Option          "NoLogo" "1"
>         SubSection      "Display"
>                 Depth   24
>                 Modes   "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
>         EndSubSection
> EndSection
>
>
> As was before, when I enter the X Window System, my primary two panels
> (driven my the AGP card) are seen as 1 wide display.  (Which is what I
> want.)
>
> The far left panel ("Left Wing") is driven my the PCI card and is
> independent of the primary panels.  (Which is, also, what I want.)
>
> The problem I'm now experiencing (finally getting to the point) is
> that windows on my primary 2 panels no longer behave properly.  By
> "properly", I mean when I maximize a window on either display, it now
> fills the screen on both displays.  When I move a window the edge of
> one screen, there is no resistance at the border.  It's as if the two
> primary panels now "think" that they are physically 1 screen.
>
> The "Left Wing" panel is behaving properly.  I have a 2nd instance of
> OpenBox running on that display (:0.1).  When I maximize a window, it
> only fills that screen.  When I move a window near any edge, it
> resists as it should.
>
> So my question is about the primary two panels.  Why are they now
> acting as though they have become 1 physical screen with no edge
> resistance between them?  Has anyone experienced this?  Is my
> configuration obviously wrong?
>

A very interesting problem and I probably won't be much help as I have
only two screens :-).  Look through your xorg.conf file, the only
thing I could see that differs from my understanding of twinview usage
is that your "Modes" option in the "Display" subsection are listed as
the size of one of the monitors.  I run at 1024x768,1024x768 and put
2048x768 in the "Modes" section.  Of course you ARE getting both
screens to show up so I doubt changing this would fix anything.

Also perhaps you should use a seperate "Monitor" defintion?   I don't
know, but it'd be something to try.

Be sure to update us if you get it figured out!

Troy
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Aug 19 00:20:02 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 06:20:02 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] CVS compile error: LC_CTYPE undeclared
In-Reply-To: <367a23780608181911y621fbc05m46d47c6ef341d983@mail.gmail.com>
References: <367a23780608181906r18ee1cb0hcd5dc4b675ab6394@mail.gmail.com>
 <367a23780608181911y621fbc05m46d47c6ef341d983@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608190616350.3726@localhost>

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Kacper Wysocki wrote:

> Hi all,
> render/font.c has
>
> # if USE_PANGO && !ENABLE_NLS
> # include <locale.h>
> # endif
>
> which results in the following compile error when pango is on and nls is off
> (which seems to be the default on my system at least):
>
> render/font.c: In function 'font_startup':
> render/font.c:65: warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a 
> cast
> render/font.c: In function 'openfont':
> render/font.c:139: error: 'LC_CTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function)
> render/font.c:139: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> render/font.c:139: error: for each function it appears in.)
> render/font.c:139: warning: passing argument 1 of 'g_strdup' makes
> pointer from integer without a cast
> make[1]: *** [render/render_libobrender_la-font.lo] Error 1
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/comotion/downloads/cvs/openbox'
> make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
>
> Including locale.h unconditionally in font.c fixes the problem.

Could you try with cvs now? I added defined() around the names like it 
should be. Maybe your system just defines them without assigning a value.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From kacperw at online.no  Sat Aug 19 08:57:01 2006
From: kacperw at online.no (Kacper Wysocki)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 14:57:01 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Dual head + 1 monitor
In-Reply-To: <4692d7510608181738g578fa92dqcc0e25e38dcfc2fc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4692d7510608181738g578fa92dqcc0e25e38dcfc2fc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <367a23780608190557m387b75b9mfab634b9a486772f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David,
I've been running two monitors in both Dual-head and Xinerama since
the openbox 2 days, and although I don't have a second screen anymore,
maybe I can shed some light on your issues.

On 8/19/06, David Courtney <blixel at gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem I'm now experiencing (finally getting to the point) is
> that windows on my primary 2 panels no longer behave properly.  By
> "properly", I mean when I maximize a window on either display, it now
> fills the screen on both displays.  When I move a window the edge of
> one screen, there is no resistance at the border.  It's as if the two
> primary panels now "think" that they are physically 1 screen.

TwinView supplies "pseudo-Xinerama" which are hints that openbox needs
to behave properly. These hints are probably disabled when the nvidia
driver detects the second screen. You may need to force enable the
hints with an nvidia driver option, or start using regular Xinerama
(caveat: last I heard there's no dri under Xinerama).
You need to take a good look at your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to find out
what the precise problem is.

> The "Left Wing" panel is behaving properly.  I have a 2nd instance of
> OpenBox running on that display (:0.1).  When I maximize a window, it
> only fills that screen.  When I move a window near any edge, it
> resists as it should.

Openbox 3 was designed with Xinerama in mind, but not dual-head.
Expect mouse focus, key grabbing and race or deadlock problems as the
two instances contend for the same resources. I had a lengthy
discussion with Ben Jansens about this, and he claimed that patching
openbox to support dual-head would require major work. Maybe it works
better without focus-follows-mouse.. YMMV. In any case, your present
issues are most likely due to the abovementioned Xinerama hints not
being present.

HTH,
  -Kacper Wysocki


From kacperw at gmail.com  Sat Aug 19 09:24:43 2006
From: kacperw at gmail.com (Kacper Wysocki)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:24:43 +0200
Subject: [openbox] CVS compile error: LC_CTYPE undeclared
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608190616350.3726@localhost>
References: <367a23780608181906r18ee1cb0hcd5dc4b675ab6394@mail.gmail.com>
	 <367a23780608181911y621fbc05m46d47c6ef341d983@mail.gmail.com>
	 <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608190616350.3726@localhost>
Message-ID: <367a23780608190624j6ea2c436o67e47dbf954cabf@mail.gmail.com>

On 8/19/06, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Kacper Wysocki wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > render/font.c has
> >
> > # if USE_PANGO && !ENABLE_NLS
> > # include <locale.h>
> > # endif

> > Including locale.h unconditionally in font.c fixes the problem.
>
> Could you try with cvs now? I added defined() around the names like it
> should be. Maybe your system just defines them without assigning a value.

No, same problem. Some checking shows that ENABLE_NLS is defined yet
doesn't provide LC_CTYPE and friends.

This is a vanilla debian sid system, nothing esoteric, but libs might
be rather new.

0K


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Aug 19 09:49:40 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 15:49:40 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] CVS compile error: LC_CTYPE undeclared
In-Reply-To: <367a23780608190624j6ea2c436o67e47dbf954cabf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <367a23780608181906r18ee1cb0hcd5dc4b675ab6394@mail.gmail.com> 
 <367a23780608181911y621fbc05m46d47c6ef341d983@mail.gmail.com> 
 <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608190616350.3726@localhost>
 <367a23780608190624j6ea2c436o67e47dbf954cabf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608191549180.15816@localhost>

On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Kacper Wysocki wrote:

> On 8/19/06, Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
>>  On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, Kacper Wysocki wrote:
>> 
>> >  Hi all,
>> >  render/font.c has
>> > 
>> > #  if USE_PANGO && !ENABLE_NLS
>> > #  include <locale.h>
>> > #  endif
>
>> >  Including locale.h unconditionally in font.c fixes the problem.
>>
>>  Could you try with cvs now? I added defined() around the names like it
>>  should be. Maybe your system just defines them without assigning a value.
>
> No, same problem. Some checking shows that ENABLE_NLS is defined yet
> doesn't provide LC_CTYPE and friends.
>
> This is a vanilla debian sid system, nothing esoteric, but libs might
> be rather new.

Okay, i'll just remove the check for ENABLE_NLS, it doesn't hurt to 
include the file twice.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Aug 19 11:46:49 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 17:46:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608191744001.19733@localhost>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Mikael Magnusson wrote:

> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to release 
> Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version of CVS to 
> shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of themes installed 
> has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are using a theme from 
> before you might want to copy it to your ~.

Okay, a crashing bug was found in the new per application settings code, 
which lead me to finally figure out a rare crashing bug in 
action_raiselower so i am hoping that is also fixed; for these reasons i 
will delay a day or so to see that it works right.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From t-vollmer at gmx.de  Sun Aug 20 09:16:41 2006
From: t-vollmer at gmx.de (Thorsten Vollmer)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:16:41 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608191744001.19733@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608191744001.19733@localhost>
Message-ID: <44E860B9.8060609@gmx.de>

I tried the new themes and noticed that no themerc for 'syscrash' is
installed. Please fix Makefile.am (again).


On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to release
> Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version of CVS to
> shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of themes installed
> has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are using a theme from
> before you might want to copy it to your ~.






From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sun Aug 20 09:16:47 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 15:16:47 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <44E860B9.8060609@gmx.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
 <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608191744001.19733@localhost> <44E860B9.8060609@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608201516110.4435@localhost>

Thanks, i made a one liner to list the files but then i must have missed 
the last line when copying to my editor.

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Thorsten Vollmer wrote:

> I tried the new themes and noticed that no themerc for 'syscrash' is
> installed. Please fix Makefile.am (again).
>
>
> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006, Mikael Magnusson wrote:
>> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to release
>> Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version of CVS to
>> shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of themes installed
>> has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are using a theme from
>> before you might want to copy it to your ~.
>
>
>
>

--
Mikael Magnusson


From gryf_esm at tlen.pl  Sun Aug 20 12:36:14 2006
From: gryf_esm at tlen.pl (Roman Dobosz)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:36:14 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060820183614.0965618d.gryf_esm@tlen.pl>

On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:24:23 +0200 (CEST)
Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:

> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to 
> release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version 
> of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of 
> themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are 
> using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.

I'm using a panel (on top of screen) with plain ob3. CVS version have
a strange behavior (feature?): when window is maximized, it's covered
a little by panel (tested with pypanel 2.4 and fbpanel 4.3) - about
2-3 pixels.

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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sun Aug 20 12:46:52 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 18:46:52 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Please test CVS
In-Reply-To: <20060820183614.0965618d.gryf_esm@tlen.pl>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608182206350.19906@localhost>
 <20060820183614.0965618d.gryf_esm@tlen.pl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608201846400.5877@localhost>

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Roman Dobosz wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Aug 2006 22:24:23 +0200 (CEST)
> Mikael Magnusson <mangosoft at comhem.se> wrote:
>
>> So, only a short while after the last release, I am getting ready to
>> release Openbox 3.3. If you would be so kind as to test the latest version
>> of CVS to shake out any eventual bugs. As you will notice, the set of
>> themes installed has changed, as well as the default theme. If you are
>> using a theme from before you might want to copy it to your ~.
>
> I'm using a panel (on top of screen) with plain ob3. CVS version have
> a strange behavior (feature?): when window is maximized, it's covered
> a little by panel (tested with pypanel 2.4 and fbpanel 4.3) - about
> 2-3 pixels.

Hm, it seems to work fine here with gnome-panel.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From henrik.enberg at telia.com  Sun Aug 20 16:52:31 2006
From: henrik.enberg at telia.com (Henrik Enberg)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:52:31 +0200
Subject: Bogus default theme in 3.3
Message-ID: <20060820205231.GA23867@rocksteady.printf.se>

The theme set in $PREFIX/etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml is still TheBear, which
has been removed.  I guess it should be changed to bear2.


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sun Aug 20 16:59:33 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 22:59:33 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Bogus default theme in 3.3
In-Reply-To: <20060820205231.GA23867@rocksteady.printf.se>
References: <20060820205231.GA23867@rocksteady.printf.se>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608202259300.19453@localhost>

On Sun, 20 Aug 2006, Henrik Enberg wrote:

> The theme set in $PREFIX/etc/xdg/openbox/rc.xml is still TheBear, which
> has been removed.  I guess it should be changed to bear2.

Thanks.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From straivir at ucsd.edu  Tue Aug 22 02:09:01 2006
From: straivir at ucsd.edu (Sirirat Traiviratana)
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 23:09:01 -0700
Subject: Openbox CVS
Message-ID: <44EA9F7D.4010706@ucsd.edu>

Hi,

I am not sure if this is a bug from Openbox or themes. Openobx crashes
(as no right-click-menu, minimize, maximize, shade, move or resize, I
had to ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X and kill openbox from top and startx
again) when I use ctrl-alt-left/right to change desktops on the
following themes;

Clearlook-BLING!
Clearlook-old-plain-split
Graphitetypething
horseshoe
Splitmunk

The strange thing is that I can use mouse scroll to change desktops fine
for those themes but it still crashes with ctrl-alt-left/right.

Here is part of my rc.xml.

  <keybind key="C-A-Left">
    <action name="DesktopLeft"><wrap>no</wrap></action>
  </keybind>
  <keybind key="C-A-Right">
    <action name="DesktopRight"><wrap>no</wrap></action>
  </keybind>
....

    <mousebind button="Up" action="Press">
      <action name="DesktopPrevious"/>
    </mousebind>
    <mousebind button="Down" action="Press">
      <action name="DesktopNext"/>
    </mousebind>

Regards,
Sirirat


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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:06:08 -0400
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> www.compraloautos.com
> 
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> enterar de que ya no hay que pagar para vender tu vehiculo en la web.
> 
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From george.rafael at gmail.com  Thu Aug 24 11:24:02 2006
From: george.rafael at gmail.com (Rafael George)
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:24:02 -0400
Subject: [openbox] La nueva pagina Gratis para publicar tu vehiculo. www.compraloautos.com
In-Reply-To: <44EDC3CA.5090801@theshinalls.com>
References: <138dcf050608240652s913523ftdd45122b5a5712cb@mail.gmail.com>
	 <138dcf050608240759s552885f0n6abc0bf640016e90@mail.gmail.com>
	 <c4a0d4310608240806r5434b907if9acd5a43ef3e259@mail.gmail.com>
	 <44EDC3CA.5090801@theshinalls.com>
Message-ID: <c4a0d4310608240824o48848909s24ce5ec2c297edf8@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry dude, it wasn't my fault some bastard used my client.

On 8/24/06, Spam Catcher for theShinalls.com <spam at theshinalls.com> wrote:
> Are you friggin kidding me? I don't speak very much Spanish and I can
> recognize this as spam. What the hell? IM spamming people isn't giving
> you the results you want? What makes you think spamming a GNU window
> manager's mailing list would get you any more visitors or clicks?!
>
> spammers suck...
> spammers speaking foreign languages suck more...
>
> Rafael George wrote:
> > www.compraloautos.com
> >
> > Favor reenviar este email a sus contactos de modo que se puedan
> > enterar de que ya no hay que pagar para vender tu vehiculo en la web.
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
>


-- 
Grimoire Guru
SourceMage GNU/Linux


From bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net  Sat Aug 26 07:04:22 2006
From: bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net (Bartosz Oudekerk)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:04:22 +0200
Subject: Lockable Key-chains
Message-ID: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>

Hi,

I've just started using Xinerama, which (for me) means I'll be using
more actions, which need keybindings. I'd like to keep them from
intervering with applications keybindings as little as possible.

I thought it might be a great feature to 'lock' a chainkey, so that
when you press a certain key-combination, you enter a sort of command
mode.

<keybind key="C-o">
  <keybind key="Up">
    <action name="MoveRelativeVert"><delta>-20</delta></action>
  </keybind>
</keybind>

With the above example, I press Up once, and then have to start over
again, I'd like to be able to keep pressing Up, until I either cancel
the chain or it times out.

Is this at all possible, and if not could it be added? Thanks.

-- 
Bartosz Oudekerk

It's so stupid of modern civilization to have given up believing in the
Devil when he is the only explanation for it.
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From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Aug 26 07:29:55 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:29:55 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost>

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've just started using Xinerama, which (for me) means I'll be using
> more actions, which need keybindings. I'd like to keep them from
> intervering with applications keybindings as little as possible.
>
> I thought it might be a great feature to 'lock' a chainkey, so that
> when you press a certain key-combination, you enter a sort of command
> mode.
>
> <keybind key="C-o">
>  <keybind key="Up">
>    <action name="MoveRelativeVert"><delta>-20</delta></action>
>  </keybind>
> </keybind>
>
> With the above example, I press Up once, and then have to start over
> again, I'd like to be able to keep pressing Up, until I either cancel
> the chain or it times out.
>
> Is this at all possible, and if not could it be added? Thanks.

https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2769
It shouldn't be impossible to add, but I probably won't be the one doing 
it anytime soon.

--
Mikael Magnusson


From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sat Aug 26 18:50:10 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:50:10 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: 3.3
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608270047460.22335@localhost>

so, there you have it, http://icculus.org/openbox/download.php

--
Mikael Magnusson


From peter at thecodergeek.com  Sat Aug 26 22:03:26 2006
From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:03:26 -0700
Subject: [openbox] 3.3
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608270047460.22335@localhost>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608270047460.22335@localhost>
Message-ID: <44F0FD6E.4040307@thecodergeek.com>

Mikael Magnusson wrote:
> so, there you have it, http://icculus.org/openbox/download.php

YAY! Thanks, Mikael!

(And updated FC-5 and FC-Devel RPMs should hit your favorite Fedora Extras
mirror Real Soon Now... ^_^)
-- 
Peter Gordon (codergeek42)
GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xFFC19479 / Fingerprint:
  DD68 A414 56BD 6368 D957 9666 4268 CB7A FFC1 9479
My Blog: http://thecodergeek.com/blog/

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From peter at thecodergeek.com  Sat Aug 26 22:56:40 2006
From: peter at thecodergeek.com (Peter Gordon)
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:56:40 -0700
Subject: [openbox] 3.3
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References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608270047460.22335@localhost> <44F0FD6E.4040307@thecodergeek.com>
Message-ID: <44F109E8.9010004@thecodergeek.com>

Peter Gordon wrote:
> (And updated FC-5 and FC-Devel RPMs should hit your favorite Fedora Extras
> mirror Real Soon Now... ^_^)

FC-4 builds are in-progress and should also finish and be available with these.
:P
-- 
Peter Gordon (codergeek42)
GnuPG Public Key ID: 0xFFC19479 / Fingerprint:
  DD68 A414 56BD 6368 D957 9666 4268 CB7A FFC1 9479
My Blog: http://thecodergeek.com/blog/

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From mrgreen.linuxuser at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 14:39:22 2006
From: mrgreen.linuxuser at gmail.com (Mr Green)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:39:22 +0100
Subject: 3.3
Message-ID: <b62408800608271139i923e9cat7aa9c8141f90d215@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have just built 3.3 working fine here ... wanted to know a little more
about middle menu option as in changelog

Has head less menu patch been left out?

Thanks for all your hard work



-- 
Mr Green Linux User
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From bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net  Sun Aug 27 17:52:34 2006
From: bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net (Bartosz Oudekerk)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:52:34 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>

Mikael Magnusson wrote on Sat, 26 Aug, 2006 at 01:29:55PM +0200:
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> 
> >I thought it might be a great feature to 'lock' a chainkey, so that
> >when you press a certain key-combination, you enter a sort of command
> >mode.
> >
> ><keybind key="C-o">
> > <keybind key="Up">
> >   <action name="MoveRelativeVert"><delta>-20</delta></action>
> > </keybind>
> ></keybind>
> >
> >With the above example, I press Up once, and then have to start over
> >again, I'd like to be able to keep pressing Up, until I either cancel
> >the chain or it times out.
> >
> >Is this at all possible, and if not could it be added? Thanks.
> 
> https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2769

Ah, I should have searched that first.

> It shouldn't be impossible to add, but I probably won't be the one doing 
> it anytime soon.

I don't know if it'll change anything, but I'd be willing to pay for
such a feature. I don't have that much to spend, but perhaps others
(clay, jonas), would be willing to chime in?

I have one thing to add to the original request, which isn't clear from
either my or clays description. It should be possible to use several
different commands within the mode, not just one multiple times.

-- 
Bartosz Oudekerk

Large cats can be dangerous, but a little pussy never hurt anyone.
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From blixel at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 18:10:22 2006
From: blixel at gmail.com (David Courtney)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:10:22 -0400
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
	 <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost>
	 <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
Message-ID: <4692d7510608271510m36774d25l268424ec858bb18c@mail.gmail.com>

> I don't know if it'll change anything, but I'd be willing to pay for
> such a feature. I don't have that much to spend, but perhaps others
> (clay, jonas), would be willing to chime in?
>

I'd donate money to have opaque window movement/resizing made
optional.  Especially if it could be implemented on a per window
basis.

(I know about <drawContents>no</drawContents> ... that's not the same
thing as "outline" resize/movement.)


From clay.barnes at gmail.com  Sun Aug 27 21:35:38 2006
From: clay.barnes at gmail.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 18:35:38 -0700
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
	<Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost>
	<20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
Message-ID: <20060828013538.GS9112@HAL_5000D.tc.ph.cox.net>

On 23:52 Sun 27 Aug     , Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> Mikael Magnusson wrote on Sat, 26 Aug, 2006 at 01:29:55PM +0200:
> > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> > 
> > >I thought it might be a great feature to 'lock' a chainkey, so that
> > >when you press a certain key-combination, you enter a sort of command
> > >mode.
> > >
> > ><keybind key="C-o">
> > > <keybind key="Up">
> > >   <action name="MoveRelativeVert"><delta>-20</delta></action>
> > > </keybind>
> > ></keybind>
> > >
> > >With the above example, I press Up once, and then have to start over
> > >again, I'd like to be able to keep pressing Up, until I either cancel
> > >the chain or it times out.
> > >
> > >Is this at all possible, and if not could it be added? Thanks.
> > 
> > https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2769
> 
> Ah, I should have searched that first.
> 
> > It shouldn't be impossible to add, but I probably won't be the one doing 
> > it anytime soon.
> 
> I don't know if it'll change anything, but I'd be willing to pay for
> such a feature. I don't have that much to spend, but perhaps others
> (clay, jonas), would be willing to chime in?
Depends on how much it would take.  I'd be willing to throw in a little
money for this feature to save the time of coding it myself.  I'm trying
to get two seperate degrees at once (not a double-major), so I am rather
short on time to learn the codebase enough to build such a feature.

Mikeal?  What's your price for it?
> 
> I have one thing to add to the original request, which isn't clear from
> either my or clays description. It should be possible to use several
> different commands within the mode, not just one multiple times.
> 
> -- 
> Bartosz Oudekerk
> 
> Large cats can be dangerous, but a little pussy never hurt anyone.




From mangosoft at comhem.se  Sun Aug 27 21:42:39 2006
From: mangosoft at comhem.se (Mikael Magnusson)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:42:39 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <20060828013538.GS9112@HAL_5000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
 <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost> <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>
 <20060828013538.GS9112@HAL_5000D.tc.ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608280340230.6930@localhost>

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Clay Barnes wrote:

> On 23:52 Sun 27 Aug     , Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
>> Mikael Magnusson wrote on Sat, 26 Aug, 2006 at 01:29:55PM +0200:
>>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
>>>
>>>> I thought it might be a great feature to 'lock' a chainkey, so that
>>>> when you press a certain key-combination, you enter a sort of command
>>>> mode.
>>>>
>>>> <keybind key="C-o">
>>>> <keybind key="Up">
>>>>   <action name="MoveRelativeVert"><delta>-20</delta></action>
>>>> </keybind>
>>>> </keybind>
>>>>
>>>> With the above example, I press Up once, and then have to start over
>>>> again, I'd like to be able to keep pressing Up, until I either cancel
>>>> the chain or it times out.
>>>>
>>>> Is this at all possible, and if not could it be added? Thanks.
>>>
>>> https://bugzilla.icculus.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2769
>>
>> Ah, I should have searched that first.
>>
>>> It shouldn't be impossible to add, but I probably won't be the one doing
>>> it anytime soon.
>>
>> I don't know if it'll change anything, but I'd be willing to pay for
>> such a feature. I don't have that much to spend, but perhaps others
>> (clay, jonas), would be willing to chime in?
> Depends on how much it would take.  I'd be willing to throw in a little
> money for this feature to save the time of coding it myself.  I'm trying
> to get two seperate degrees at once (not a double-major), so I am rather
> short on time to learn the codebase enough to build such a feature.
>
> Mikeal?  What's your price for it?

Unfortunately my summer vacation ended with the release of 3.3, so I'm not 
sure I have time for coding. I also don't know if i want to accept money 
for specific features, although you're more than welcome to donate anyway 
:).

--
Mikael Magnusson


From bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net  Mon Aug 28 06:48:21 2006
From: bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net (Bartosz Oudekerk)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:48:21 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608280340230.6930@localhost>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost> <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net> <20060828013538.GS9112@HAL_5000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608280340230.6930@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060828104821.GA16059@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>

Mikael Magnusson wrote on Mon, 28 Aug, 2006 at 03:42:39AM +0200:
> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Clay Barnes wrote:
> >On 23:52 Sun 27 Aug     , Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> >>
> >>I don't know if it'll change anything, but I'd be willing to pay for
> >>such a feature. I don't have that much to spend, but perhaps others
> >>(clay, jonas), would be willing to chime in?
> >Depends on how much it would take.  I'd be willing to throw in a little
> >money for this feature to save the time of coding it myself.  I'm trying
> >to get two seperate degrees at once (not a double-major), so I am rather
> >short on time to learn the codebase enough to build such a feature.

If you find the time for it, be sure to post a link to the patch here.

> >Mikeal?  What's your price for it?
> 
> Unfortunately my summer vacation ended with the release of 3.3, so I'm not 
> sure I have time for coding. I also don't know if i want to accept money 
> for specific features, although you're more than welcome to donate anyway 
> :).

I can understand that, but if you do find the time, please see if you
could move this feature up on your TODO list. Since OB support tons of
actions, I think many people would find it usefull. Since it should
work(IMNSHO) exactly like the Caps_Lock, perhaps you could look at some
keyboard handling code for ideas on how to achieve it, and save time
that way?

In the meantime, does anyone know of a rc.xml which supports a lot of
moving actions, like the one Clay posted here, but without the
Windows-key?

-- 
Bartosz Oudekerk

A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature
replaces it with.  -- Tennessee Williams
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From clay.barnes at gmail.com  Mon Aug 28 12:26:22 2006
From: clay.barnes at gmail.com (Clay Barnes)
Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:26:22 -0700
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
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On 12:48 Mon 28 Aug     , Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> Mikael Magnusson wrote on Mon, 28 Aug, 2006 at 03:42:39AM +0200:
> > On Sun, 27 Aug 2006, Clay Barnes wrote:
> > >On 23:52 Sun 27 Aug     , Bartosz Oudekerk wrote:
> > >>
> > >>I don't know if it'll change anything, but I'd be willing to pay for
> > >>such a feature. I don't have that much to spend, but perhaps others
> > >>(clay, jonas), would be willing to chime in?
> > >Depends on how much it would take.  I'd be willing to throw in a little
> > >money for this feature to save the time of coding it myself.  I'm trying
> > >to get two seperate degrees at once (not a double-major), so I am rather
> > >short on time to learn the codebase enough to build such a feature.
> 
> If you find the time for it, be sure to post a link to the patch here.

I shall for certain.  I personally would do that feature before any
others, but like I said, I shan't be doing any for a long time, in all
likelyhood.

> 
> > >Mikeal?  What's your price for it?
> > 
> > Unfortunately my summer vacation ended with the release of 3.3, so I'm not 
> > sure I have time for coding. I also don't know if i want to accept money 
> > for specific features, although you're more than welcome to donate anyway 
> > :).
> 
> I can understand that, but if you do find the time, please see if you
> could move this feature up on your TODO list. Since OB support tons of
> actions, I think many people would find it usefull. Since it should
> work(IMNSHO) exactly like the Caps_Lock, perhaps you could look at some
> keyboard handling code for ideas on how to achieve it, and save time
> that way?
> 
> In the meantime, does anyone know of a rc.xml which supports a lot of
> moving actions, like the one Clay posted here, but without the
> Windows-key?
> 
> -- 
> Bartosz Oudekerk
> 
> A vacuum is a hell of a lot better than some of the stuff that nature
> replaces it with.  -- Tennessee Williams




From bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net  Tue Aug 29 06:14:52 2006
From: bartosz-openbox at unreachablehost.net (Bartosz Oudekerk)
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:14:52 +0200
Subject: [openbox] Lockable Key-chains
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608280340230.6930@localhost>
References: <20060826110422.GA21469@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608261328490.6991@localhost> <20060827215234.GA25036@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net> <20060828013538.GS9112@HAL_5000D.tc.ph.cox.net> <Pine.LNX.4.64.0608280340230.6930@localhost>
Message-ID: <20060829101452.GA14635@yofune-nushi.unreachablehost.net>

Mikael Magnusson wrote on Mon, 28 Aug, 2006 at 03:42:39AM +0200:
> I also don't know if i want to accept money 
> for specific features, although you're more than welcome to donate anyway 
> :).

If you'd like people to donate, you might want to make it easier for
them. For example by advertising it on the homepage and telling them
where to send the money.

p.s. this doesn't necessarily mean that I will, nor that I won't. It's
just a comment.

-- 
Bartosz Oudekerk

You can't teach people to be lazy -- either they have it, or they don't.
		-- Dagwood Bumstead
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